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The Catholic Church has apologized for its role in Rwanda’s 1994 genocide

In the spring of 1994, violence erupted in Rwanda after a plane carrying then president Juvenal Habyarimana was shot down. Thousands of ethnic Tutsis, a minority group who became a target after Habyarimana’s death, sought refuge in the country’s Catholic and Protestant churches.
Hutu militia surrounded the churches, shooting into the crowd, throwing grenades into the building, and killing those inside with machetes. According to witness accounts, many died at the hands of priests, nuns, and clergymen. “More Rwandese citizens died in churches and parishes than anywhere else,” the group African Rights, wrote in an account of the violence in 1995.
More than two decades later and several calls for an apology, the Catholic Church in Rwanda has apologized for its role in the genocide that claimed the lives of more than 800,000 lives, one tenth of Rwanda’s population, local representatives from the Church have apologized.
“We apologize for all the wrongs the church committed. We apologize on behalf of all Christians for all forms of wrongs we committed. We regret that church members violated [their] oath of allegiance to God’s commandments,” the Conference of Catholic Bishops said in a statement that was read aloud in Rwandan parishes during Sunday services on Nov. 20.
“Forgive us for the crime of hate in the country to the extent of also hating our colleagues because of their ethnicity. We didn’t show that we are one family but instead killed each other.”
The Church, which has been under pressure to acknowledge its role, stopped short of admitting any complicity with government forces who planned and carried out attacks against the Tutsis. While critics have accused local level Church officials of planning and carrying out the violence, the Church’s national leaders have mostly been blamed for inaction (pdf, p 166)–not doing enough to protect those seeking shelter. The Vatican has also been accused of sheltering Rwandan clergymen that were involved in the killings.
“We know that there are church members who played a role in the genocide, killed people and looted their properties. What we don’t agree with is that the church itself played a role in the genocide,” said bishop Philippe Rukamba, chairperson of the Catholic Episcopal Conference of Rwanda.
http://qz.com/842332/rwanda-fina ... -its-genocide-role/
又唔係第一次,您地實会原諒我嘅

The Catholic Church has apologized for its role in Rwanda’ ...
沙文 發表於 2016/11/21 21:00



The Catholic Church 與 Catholic Church of Rwanda 是個唔同層次既事黎.
唔通沙文係到講白痴野而向版友道歉就等如是離敎者之家向版友道歉咩?
道歉冇規定要咩層次喎
Catholic Church of Rwanda向版友道歉唔得咩?要問過您批准嘅咩?
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
今次出最高規格lu喎, 算唔算The Catholic Church, 定係妖酋個人身份呢?  天主會唔會饒恕天主教呢? 定係全教入煉獄呢?  陳版友會點樣撐呢?


卢安达大屠杀 教宗恳求上帝赦天主教罪


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最后更新 - 2017年3月20日 -09:20

(法新社梵蒂冈20日法新社)天主教教宗方济各(PopeFrancis)今天恳求上帝饶恕卷入1994年卢安达大屠杀的「天主教会及其人员的罪过和堕落」。卢安达大屠杀夺走约80万条人命。

教廷在教宗和卢安达总统卡加米(Paul Kagame)会面后发表声明表示,教宗「传达他及教廷和罗马天主教,对图西族惨遭大屠杀的深沈悲痛」。

「他恳求上帝再次饶恕罗马天主教及其人员的罪过和堕落,这些人员中有神父、有屈服于仇恨和暴力的善男信女,悖离他们本身宣传福音的使命。」

卢安达去年11月要求教廷对在大屠杀中,罗马天主教所扮演的角色正式道歉。

自卢安达大屠杀以来,天主教会被控和1994年掌权的胡图族极端分子政权接近。在这场大屠杀中,遭杀害者大多是图西族。

当胡图族民兵发现有人在天主教会寻求庇护,一些教堂因此沦为大屠杀的现场。无路可走下,有时候,甚至发生神职人员举发寻求庇护者的情况。

80岁的方济各说,他希望「谦卑坦承那段时间的失职,可能有助「记忆的净化」,带来「新的信任」。

法新社

http://www.swissinfo.ch/chi/%E5% ... 9%E7%BD%AA/43044622
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
天主教成日害人。
支持鼓勵每位離教者 › 閹割神父 刻不容緩 ‹
殺咗人講Sorry,基督教同天主教的教徒一样每每做咗錯事,一聲Sorry攪惦?
受害人就要咕聲呑咗佢?
呀,因为有耶稣代罪,所以有保险,冇有怕!
卢安达去年11月要求教廷对在大屠杀中,罗马天主教所扮演的角色正式道歉。
沙文 發表於 2017/3/28 09:40


係囉。。。
羅馬天主教在這衝突中扮了甚麼角色呢?
以前第一次十字軍都話係由教宗發起唶。。
唔通係教宗, 教廷發起胡圖族人去殺圖西族人架咩?
咁就要陳版友批准我入去'Archivio Segreto Vaticano查閱下有關文件, 點解教宗要咁折墮"asked forgiveness for the role of the Catholic Church during the Rwandan genocid"

http://www.newsweek.com/rwandan- ... -paul-kagame-570964
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
咁就要陳版友批准我入去'Archivio Segreto Vaticano查閱下有關文件, 點解教宗要咁折墮"asked forgiveness f ...

http://www.newsweek.com/rwandan- ... -paul-kagame-570964
沙文 發表於 2017/3/28 21:25



咁又唔使去檔案庫既
你英文差, 睇唔明篇文講左乜咩?

http://www.newsweek.com/rwandan- ... -paul-kagame-570964
要嘅。
究竟"participating in the genocide"當時係包括尐咩?

係逢有一位圖西族人被爆頭, 教友就 講一句Hallelujah贊美主

定係逢親胡塗佬ran dried 一個 mag, 神父就幫手 reload, 修女就 recharge magazine?

又或者圖西細路仔四圍走,  主教就捉住佢要佢企定定, 等胡塗佬容易尐瞄準?「小朋友乖乖地聽主教話唔好四圍走, 您係咁四圍走, 胡塗族叔叔就好難瞄準您個頭咖啦, 屣子彈咖啦!」

如果唔係做咗呢尐嘢, 妖酋又點會叫天主原諒咁犯賤?
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2017/3/29 07:53 編輯
要嘅。
究竟"participating in the genocide"當時係包括尐咩?

係逢有一位圖西族人被爆頭, 教友就 講一句H ...


定係逢親胡塗佬ran dried 一個 mag, 神父就幫手 reload, 修女就 recharge magazine?



沙文 發表於 2017/3/29 05:36



咁唔止添, 爆人頭既都仲會係天主教徒添。
呢d神父修女一早被國際呿庭裁定有罪, 踎緊監哩
(有d 踎完20年添哩。)

你又唔好忘記, 當日有胡圖族天主教徒, 殺既也是天主教徒既圖西族。
殺來殺去的都不是為宗教原因,
雖然殺呀殺呀的都是教徒。
點解兩幫同信仰既人要咁殺法, 咁大牙齒印?
你自己去搵哩。

有時, 親兄弟都會互片哩
http://news.tvbs.com.tw/other/437086

你讀天主教學校時同隔黎學校班友開片
你校長都會出黎道歉哩,
真唔好意思, 我學校出左咁很曳既沙文。
但唔可以話學校指使你出去片友。
唔會嘅。 嗰次我同隔黎學校班友爭女開片, 校長都冇出黎道歉哩。  唔關佢事就唔會道歉, 實係心有屎先會求天主饒恕天主教。
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
唔會嘅。 嗰次我同隔黎學校班友爭女開片, 校長都冇出黎道歉哩。  唔關佢事就唔會道歉, 實係心有屎先會求天 ...
沙文 發表於 2017/3/29 08:03


過次, 你係爭左人條女,
定人你條女俾人撬左?
呢個問題有關嗰位女同學嘅清譽,我唔方便透露太多。

爭左人條女又好, 畀人撬又好。總之我叫校長道歉, 佢話:
當日您拆咗嗰位同學祠堂, 你又唔好忘記,佢都打到您流鼻血, 流鼻血嘅也是教會學校學生
打來打去的都不是為宗教原因,
雖然打呀打呀的都是學生。
點解兩幫同教會既人要咁打法, 咁大牙齒印?
你自己去搵哩。

最後, 校長加一段: 若然係我指使嘅, 我心有屎, 您唔叫我都一定道歉,但 依家係您地爭女, 關学校L事?
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
我行到出校長室門口, 又聽到佢同訓導主任講, 「如果您聽到我因此事求天主饒恕學校, 咁唯一嘅可能就係,根本係我派沙文去爭條女畀我玩嘅!」
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
各位聰明嘅版友不難注意到, 如果净係部份神職人員劈友, 教宗只要求天主饒恕嗰幾位神職人員就得啦, 無需拉聖教會落水。
holocaust 嘅時候, Josef Goebbels, Heinrich Himmler, Reinhard Heydrich, Heinrich Müllerv,Rudolf Hoess 又夠係天主教徒, 教宗都冇求天主饒恕天主教。但黑仔劈黑仔 , 教宗就“implored anew God’s forgiveness for the sins and failings of the Church and its members", 可見其中必有警轟, 先會令教宗嘅內疚同自責來得如此深刻!  

可能唔止係指使, 根本成件事都係教廷策劃, 仲供應軍火, 事後求其督幾條友出來孭鑊, 棄車保帥.....真相, 唔畀我入秘密檔案室查, 净靠睇報紙, 係唔夠嘅。
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
會唔會出現有良知既秘密檔案室管理員,漏些少料出黎咁呢?
支持鼓勵每位離教者 › 閹割神父 刻不容緩 ‹
會唔會出現有良知既秘密檔案室管理員,漏些少料出黎咁呢?
抽刀斷水 2017/3/29 21:19 提交

通常呢 d 人都係就黎出書,剛剛出版之類,促促銷
   
好似藝人有新片就特別多誹聞
可能唔止係指使, 根本成件事都係教廷策劃, 仲供應軍火, 事後求其督幾條友出來孭鑊, 棄車保帥.....真相, 唔畀我入秘密檔案室查, 净靠睇報紙, 係唔夠嘅。

沙文 2017/3/29 19:47 提交


只靠 「可能」既 「秘密檔案」,
真係想要幾多就有幾多。
各位聰明嘅版友不難注意到, 如果净係部份神職人員劈友, 教宗只要求天主饒恕嗰幾位神職人員就得啦, 無需拉聖 ...
沙文 2017/3/29 19:47 提交

羅馬天主教懟冧圖西族,對教會有甚麼益處?
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