沙文

咁樣並唔係此策的錯喎，係啲牧師唔肯將人工攞埋去植堂，以至教堂長期不敷應用之嘛

抽刀斷水

咁個教會／牧師既鬼胎咪係：拿，都咁多人信啦，個個坐哂係度咯，證明係好野黎架！

然後，一路再植堂，一路喊窮，咪好似宜家咁囉。

沙文

咁咪啱囉。您又懷鬼胎，佢又懷鬼胎，各自消耗懷神胎嘅彈藥

抽刀斷水

原帖由 沙文 於 2008-1-10 21:50 發表
冇錯，就係要令到佢地有可以再植堂嘅錯覺，無啦啦消耗彈药。

無消耗彈藥架喎。你估教會內咁多人都係誠心向神既咩？好多都係各懷鬼胎架啦。

沙文

原帖由 抽刀斷水 於 2008-1-7 22:06 發表
篇文無講話教會會介紹工作既喎，只係「有助於新移民排遣寂寞」咋。

同時，你坐左個位，你估就可以令無知小朋友無位坐咩？佢地一見有八、九成滿座，就立即再植堂啦。 ...

佢地介紹份工，等您唔駛坐享屋企咁寂寞嘛。

冇錯，就係要令到佢地有可以再植堂嘅錯覺，無啦啦消耗彈药。

抽刀斷水

No idea....

單單論薪金並不能了解真實情況，因為有許多津貼、隱形交易等，都沒有入賬。

prussianz

by 'the way ,

does any1 have any idea
of the current pays
or the current situations
of the current jobs markets
of a typical church ??
??

any wind of the rumoured ````` performance fee """" or any other similar
incentive scheme ??
??

sorry + shame on me again 4 cant type in Chinese

cheers ThANKye pendragon

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-10 11:24 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 抽刀斷水 於 2008-1-9 12:44 發表
Please... write in English and let me help to translate it.

first pre-ThANKye , should i have time ....

now , your humble servant must first tackle the struggle 4 my it-undertaking survival

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-9 18:46 發表
In the rumour heard, is the "performance" counted by the number of people who newly join the chruches?

sorry not know ,
i was too junior then , + ,
they appeared not enjoying to talk it more ,

i have even completly completely forgotten this rumour ,
but ,
ThANKs2God
ThANKs2God's Amazing Grace
your
>>>> 牧師本身係工la.
>>>> 仲要幾好paid tim...
awakenned
me
blastingly , ThANKye

this may b the so-called yun-fan //// yuan-fen //// co-incident so called by Chinese ,
oNo !!!!;--^)
no !;--^)
that must b God's Amazing Grace

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-10 01:26 編輯 ]

weakest

In the rumour heard, is the "performance" counted by the number of people who newly join the chruches?

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

its rumoured that : :::::
some church may provide some kinds of `````performance-fees"""" or similar incentive schemes ,
right ??
sorry i cant confirm whether true or false , any evidence or counter-evidence ????
sorry ,
at the time
when
i was in church ,
i was in a junior level ,
so ,
sorry ,
i couldnt have any access to the transparency of their labours-payment-structures

disclaiming note !!!!!!!!! : :::::
even some church may really provide the `````performance-fees"""" or similar incentive schemes ,
but ,
that phenomen may b just only the affair////business done by that particular church only ,
i.e.
not every church may engage in such business .........
vice versa 2[too]
vice versa 2[too]

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-10 03:35 編輯 ]

抽刀斷水

Please... write in English and let me help to translate it.

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

1-position-which-i-didnt-or-indeed-couldnt-delve-into 's 牧師 ,

u know ,
there's no any such position as `````牧師"" iin the private commercial jobs markets ,

but ,
the pay of ``牧師" may b comparable to that of ````````` old師"""" .... o k  ..... 老師 教師 ,

what i mean really , is : :::::
the pay of ``牧師" may b comparable to that o'[of ] ....
教師 , in hk's government schools e.t.c. ,
教師 , in hk's government schools e.t.c. ,

prussianz

its quite a tall + ``tall" tale ,
+
a pain in the ass. ,
should i have time then o k ,

i wish i could type in chinese , what a shame that i cant type it

抽刀斷水

不如你分享一下你的信教及離教經歷，讓各位都了解你的思路歷程吧。

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

in order to b fair to them ,
so ,
i must make it clear that : :::::
my figures came from year 199x , but , must b4 year 1998
+
i have left the churches quite a long time ago , thence ,
i dont know their current pay ,
sorry4inconveniency


[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 22:41 編輯 ]

prussianz

>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2clerk ....

any query please dont hesitate2let me know right away

cheers ThANKye , pendragon

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-9 12:37 編輯 ]

weakest

they were indeed comparing their own with that of the internationnal big corporations located in hk ,
e.g. : ::::: I.B.M.

You mean some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-8 12:09 發表
牧師本身係工la. 仲要幾好paid tim...

oyes
o yes ,
the clergymen//clergywomen//clergypersons of my [left] churches did stress
their pay being lower than that of outside ,

but ,
then , i delved deeper out ,
their salaries were `````````low"""""""" in comparson with that of internationnal big corps located in hk ,
e.g. : ::::: I.B.M.


[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:26 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 抽刀斷水 於 2008-1-8 09:59 發表
傻啦，浪費咁多時間。

假如真的一旦被lay off，到時就扮哂內疚咁，話以前疏於返教會是罪，貪於逸樂，以後都勤力返教會，七情上面，牧師一定會心軟既（唔心軟都要扮心軟 ）。 ...

ThANKs4teaching ,
u render me immediatly smarter than those smartest churches ,
very useful 4 me in canada e.t.c.