prussianz

>>>> 唔啱！工作生活穩定後仍然參加教会活動嘅新移民更為醒目

in my own humble opinion ,
the most 醒目 is 'the churches ,
they'r much more 醒目 + creative than my guestimation ,

>>>> 人在異鄉倍思親
>>>> 做彌撒、聽講經和鄉親聚會交流……
>>>> 聖誕節初體驗好溫馨

>>>> 人在異鄉倍思親
they do really know where'r 'the ``markets" , + ,
they do 'the caterring just great ,
no such thing or even concept in buddhism nor taoism e.t.c.

i  cant help but must admit : :::::
the churches -----> 醒目 very 醒目



[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 01:04 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 抽刀斷水 於 2008-1-8 09:59 發表
傻啦，浪費咁多時間。

假如真的一旦被lay off，到時就扮哂內疚咁，話以前疏於返教會是罪，貪於逸樂，以後都勤力返教會，七情上面，牧師一定會心軟既（唔心軟都要扮心軟 ）。 ...

ThANKs4teaching ,
u render me immediatly smarter than those smartest churches ,
very useful 4 me in canada e.t.c.

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-8 12:09 發表
牧師本身係工la. 仲要幾好paid tim...

oyes
o yes ,
the clergymen//clergywomen//clergypersons of my [left] churches did stress
their pay being lower than that of outside ,

but ,
then , i delved deeper out ,
their salaries were `````````low"""""""" in comparson with that of internationnal big corps located in hk ,
e.g. : ::::: I.B.M.


[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:26 編輯 ]

prussianz

>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2clerk ....

any query please dont hesitate2let me know right away

cheers ThANKye , pendragon

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-9 12:37 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

in order to b fair to them ,
so ,
i must make it clear that : :::::
my figures came from year 199x , but , must b4 year 1998
+
i have left the churches quite a long time ago , thence ,
i dont know their current pay ,
sorry4inconveniency


[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 22:41 編輯 ]

prussianz

its quite a tall + ``tall" tale ,
+
a pain in the ass. ,
should i have time then o k ,

i wish i could type in chinese , what a shame that i cant type it

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

1-position-which-i-didnt-or-indeed-couldnt-delve-into 's 牧師 ,

u know ,
there's no any such position as `````牧師"" iin the private commercial jobs markets ,

but ,
the pay of ``牧師" may b comparable to that of ````````` old師"""" .... o k  ..... 老師 教師 ,

what i mean really , is : :::::
the pay of ``牧師" may b comparable to that o'[of ] ....
教師 , in hk's government schools e.t.c. ,
教師 , in hk's government schools e.t.c. ,

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

its rumoured that : :::::
some church may provide some kinds of `````performance-fees"""" or similar incentive schemes ,
right ??
sorry i cant confirm whether true or false , any evidence or counter-evidence ????
sorry ,
at the time
when
i was in church ,
i was in a junior level ,
so ,
sorry ,
i couldnt have any access to the transparency of their labours-payment-structures

disclaiming note !!!!!!!!! : :::::
even some church may really provide the `````performance-fees"""" or similar incentive schemes ,
but ,
that phenomen may b just only the affair////business done by that particular church only ,
i.e.
not every church may engage in such business .........
vice versa 2[too]
vice versa 2[too]

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-10 03:35 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-9 18:46 發表
In the rumour heard, is the "performance" counted by the number of people who newly join the chruches?

sorry not know ,
i was too junior then , + ,
they appeared not enjoying to talk it more ,

i have even completly completely forgotten this rumour ,
but ,
ThANKs2God
ThANKs2God's Amazing Grace
your
>>>> 牧師本身係工la.
>>>> 仲要幾好paid tim...
awakenned
me
blastingly , ThANKye

this may b the so-called yun-fan //// yuan-fen //// co-incident so called by Chinese ,
oNo !!!!;--^)
no !;--^)
that must b God's Amazing Grace

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-10 01:26 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 抽刀斷水 於 2008-1-9 12:44 發表
Please... write in English and let me help to translate it.

first pre-ThANKye , should i have time ....

now , your humble servant must first tackle the struggle 4 my it-undertaking survival

prussianz

by 'the way ,

does any1 have any idea
of the current pays
or the current situations
of the current jobs markets
of a typical church ??
??

any wind of the rumoured ````` performance fee """" or any other similar
incentive scheme ??
??

sorry + shame on me again 4 cant type in Chinese

cheers ThANKye pendragon

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-10 11:24 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 抽刀斷水 於 2008-1-11 10:07 發表
咁個教會／牧師既鬼胎咪係：拿，都咁多人信啦，個個坐哂係度咯，證明係好野黎架！

然後，一路再植堂，一路喊窮，咪好似宜家咁囉。

o yes

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-11 17:51 發表
No la. If the 牧師肯將人工攞埋去植堂, there would be no excuse for the chruches to喊窮 (since the expenditures on the wages would be greatly reduced). Therefore, 牧師唔肯將人工攞埋去植堂 is simply a w ...

>> Therefore,
>> 牧師唔肯將人工攞埋去植堂
>> is simply a way
>> to increase the donationreceived, and thus make more chruches (and more wages) available...

>> to increase the donationreceived, and thus make more chruches (and more wages) available...
>> to increase the donationreceived, and thus make more chruches (and more wages) available...
realsmart ,


------------------
by 'the way,
your comment's also
realsmart ,


ThANKye

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-11 17:51 發表
No la. If the 牧師肯將人工攞埋去植堂, there would be no excuse for the chruches to喊窮 (since the expenditures on the wages would be greatly reduced). Therefore, 牧師唔肯將人工攞埋去植堂 is simply a w ...

>> Therefore,
>> 牧師唔肯將人工攞埋去植堂
>> is simply a way
>> to increase the donationreceived, and thus make more chruches (and more wages) available...

,
ye have made a point out , which i do also want to for so long , but could not verbally ,
ThANK ye

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-12 12:03 發表
According to the Christian belief, there will be a heaven for those believers. Therefore, ask the donators to donate all income and 餓X死咗the donators 先算"捨己為人". Since 餓唔X死咗個牧師 means that ...

after a long while , then , finally , i could crack out your meaning ,
o yes ,
very funny , ThANKye ,

prussianz

4u2 laugh

pre-note : :::::
the RCG =
the RESTORED CHURCH OF GOD

the subject of 'the following ``order" : :::::
``````````
End All Your FINANCIAL WORRIES """""""""

http://www.thercg.org/books/eayfw.html
>>>> End All Your FINANCIAL WORRIES
[[.....]]
>>>>Who Really
>>>>Owns
>>>>Everything?
[[.....]]
>>>>God says,
>>>>“For all the earth is Mine”
>>>>(Ex. 19:5).
[[.....]]
>>>>“with all that therein is” (Deut. 10:14) and
>>>>“whatsoever is under the whole heaven is Mine”
>>>>(Job 41:11).
[[.....]]
>>>>In a sense,
>>>>God is saying that all money is His
>>>>God owns absolutely everything there is to own.
[[.....]]
>>>>Human beings are
>>>>“squatters” on His land and
>>>>“renters” in homes that belong to Him.
[[.....]]
>>>>Any time He wishes,
>>>>God could take back all that is His.
>>>>After all, it is His!
>>>>This includes your income.
>>>>While you may have “earned it,” God owns it.
[[.....]]
>>>>We have proven that
>>>>our entire income
>>>>(salary, wages, interest earned, investments, bonuses, commissions
>>>>and any other kind of financial increase)
>>>>actually belongs to God.

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 05:25 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-12 16:25 發表
4u2 laugh

pre-note : :::::
the RCG =
the RESTORED CHURCH OF GOD

http://www.thercg.org/books/eayfw.html
>>>>Who Really
>>>>Owns
>>>>Everything?
[[.....]]
>>>>God says,
>>>>“For all the eart ...

there4 ,
in Gods names
4 God sakes
i suggest .... indeed this time exxxtremly exxxtremely strongly
i order
all you must MUST donate
all your $$$$$$$$$ to our AllMighty God's loyal servants , i.e. churches + pastors e.t.c.
right away straightly
immediatly
immediately , otherwise , woe unto all u ,
http://www.thercg.org/books/eayfw.html
>>>> Christ said,
>>>> “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
[[....]]
>>>>(Matt. 23:23).







http://www.thercg.org/books/eayfw.html
>> Any time He wishes,
>> God could take back all that is His.
>> After all, it is His!
>> This includes your income.
>> While you may have “earned it,”
>> God owns it.
[[.....]]
>> Everything that you think you own is actually owned by God.
>> You are merely its temporary custodian.

;P
so ,
sorry ,
this is not to donate your $$$$$$$$$ to churches e.t.c.
this is just to ----r----e----t----u----r----n----
back
what
originnally belong to our God ,
all originnally belong to our God ,
all belong to our God , ;P



[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 05:23 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-13 04:08 發表
In principle, any assets could be converted into a series of income. What you need is a discount factor that could convert a series of income into a "present value" (and vice versa). Therefore, people ...

i enjoy it

prussianz

http://www.thercg.org/books/eayfw.html
>>>>“whatsoever is under the whole heaven is Mine”
>>>>(Job 41:11).
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so ,
your lives ,
your bodies , e.t.c. ,
yours all should also be donated to
our AllMighty God's loyal servants , i.e. pastors e.t.c. ,


so ,
in Gods names ,
4 Godsakes ,
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if .... the Christians would be really so much dedicated2God ,
then .....
all male Christians should send themselves voluntarily instantly to
iraq +
afghanistan
to preach Christiannity ,
just as what those korean Christians did
@ afghanistan
@ year2007
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if .... those korean male Christians dare do ,
then .....
those chinese male Christians should be more to
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.... mmmm , those korean male Christians really being so able to ,
but .....
the chinese male Christians not so true !!?
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the chinese male Christians not as able as korean male Christian  ??

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by 'the way ,
even in afghanistan or iraq ,
our AllMighty God
must be able to protect them to come back home with the ,,whole-body''
just as those male korean Christians returning from afghanistan to korea


[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 06:03 編輯 ]