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為何基督教兩千年來至今仍屹立不倒?

回復 145# Nomad 的帖子

"原來在基督徒的字典中戰爭=Genocide"

就係因為佢地真係戰爭, 無滅族...

歷代志下 8:7 至於國中所剩下不屬以色列人的赫人、亞摩利人、比利洗人、希未人、耶布斯人,
歷代志下 8:8 就是以色列人未曾滅絕的,所羅門挑取他們的後裔作服苦的奴僕,直到今日。

佢地既敵人根本唔係善男信女, 唔好成日講到外族人係老弱婦嬬先得格...

申命記 7:1 耶和華你 上帝領你進入要得為業之地,從你面前趕出許多國民,就是赫人、革迦撒人、亞摩利人、迦南人、比利洗人、希未人、耶布斯人,共七國的民,都比你強大。

回復 138# M2 的帖子

From what I read 黃帝's tribe has only expelled 蚩尤's tribe at the end (which is a suspected part of my ancestry).

But, hey, if  黃帝 did order to murder everyone on the land, I will condemned him too.  

BUT he is not God, he is not all knowing.  He may not know what he is doing.  He is not all powerful and may have very few option opened to him.  He do not have hindsight either.  So I would say he is condemned but most likely excused for what he did.  You know, if a baby put his hand into the electical outlet, it is not called 'suicide'.

Do we need to continue?  I also condemn Chun's first empire for his murderous campaign.  I also condemn Guan Yu's flood-the-city campaign in his later year.  BUT they are all limited in intelligence (brain power, or just pure information), power.  It will at least excuse part of their sick behaviour.

So what do you say, are you prepare to condemn God?
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From what I understand of the time, "killing everyone in the tribe" is not a common practise in the area.  This tactic only begin at the warring states period.  Up to the Spring-Autumn period, the common mode is to conquer a city, not to murder everyone in it.

[ 本帖最後由 dye 於 2008-2-21 16:24 編輯 ]
>原來"黃帝vs>蚩尤"係"隻揪",唔係部族戰爭!

原來在基督徒的字典中戰爭=Genocide


難怪他們次次打仗不強姦就Genocide了
>如果以為讀大學唔駛交學費就真係好天真好傻!

老天,連交學費和買學位都分不出的人...
學位果然...不是買的,就是教會擦鞋擦出來的OTL

>原來蚩尤好"搭馬"架

當年林肯都好搭馬啊
不過他被殺時算不算Genocide?

回復 140# Nomad 的帖子

小弟今次唯有自認好天真好傻。
原來"黃帝vs>蚩尤"係"隻揪",唔係部族戰爭!
多謝賜教!

回復 140# Nomad 的帖子

http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/?qid=1007051805553

《山海經.大荒北經》
蚩尤作兵,伐黃帝
蚩尤請風伯、雨師,縱大風雨

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原來蚩尤好"搭馬"架

回復 139# Nomad 的帖子

如果以為讀大學唔駛交學費就真係好天真好傻!
原帖由 M2 於 2008-2-21 15:53 發表
跟住係未會問我 "Are you ready to condem 黃帝 for his genocidal campaign against 蚩尤?"


哇,根據傳說
黃帝是"一個人",蚩尤也是"一個人"。


一個人的Genocide,真爽。
字典看不看得懂?
原帖由 M2 於 2008-2-21 15:45 發表

見笑了!閣下唔係不嬲都已經係咁早咩?小弟豈敢邀功。


原來老兄連「起初神創造天地」和「他們就照耶和華所吩咐摩西的,與米甸人打仗,殺了所有的男丁。」都還未會分
之前說你面皮厚過M1A1的裝甲,真是錯怪你了。
你要不是連中文都不懂讀的話,就是擁有連十八吋艦砲都打不穿的面皮了!

說起來,你的大學學位是不是買回來的?(苦笑)
跟住係未會問我 "Are you ready to condem 黃帝 for his genocidal campaign against 蚩尤?"
原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-2-21 15:38 發表
真好
多得M2的例子,我們被基督徒打劫,只要到教會引用「起初神創造天地」問責,就可以了。

見笑了!閣下唔係不嬲都已經係咁早咩?小弟豈敢邀功。
人不為己,天誅地滅 is NOT part of the idea common among atheist.

But when Joshua did his genocide:

Joshua 10
40 So Joshua subdued the whole region, including the hill country, the Negev, the western foothills and the mountain slopes, together with all their kings. He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.

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I am ready to condemn the one who rob you.  Are you ready to condemn God?  (Or you are trying to say Joshua got it all wrong from God even though God stop the sun and throw hail stone to aid his genocidal campaign?)

[ 本帖最後由 dye 於 2008-2-21 15:43 編輯 ]
原帖由 M2 於 2008-2-21 15:37 發表
從來就沒有什麼救世主,也不靠神仙皇帝。所以「人不為己,天誅地滅」。


沒有神就代表"人不為己,天誅地滅"?
...難怪那些同樣相信從來就沒甚麼救世主的佛教僧人,還有新儒家的可憐傢伙,會在短短二十年間被基督徒們灌以各種不知所謂的罪名了。

[ 本帖最後由 Nomad 於 2008-2-21 15:41 編輯 ]
>從來就沒有什麼救世主,也不靠神仙皇帝。

真好
多得M2的例子,我們被基督徒打劫,只要到教會引用「起初神創造天地」問責,就可以了。

至於希特勒說過要殺光猶太人,是跟納粹主義是毫無關係的。

回復 132# dye 的帖子

從來就沒有什麼救世主,也不靠神仙皇帝。所以「人不為己,天誅地滅」。
How is that related to the robbing (as he tells you?)

Secular Humanism is not a perfect 'thing'.  I am not even trying to be dogmatic about it.  It is no big deal to investigate about it.

[ 本帖最後由 dye 於 2008-2-21 15:33 編輯 ]
原帖由 M2 於 2008-2-21 15:22 發表
如果我尋日俾一個自稱為無神論者既人打劫,我今日上黎呢處搵人問責道歉,會否被認為「好天真、好傻」?


尋日俾人打劫就應該尋日即刻去衙門搵衙差幫手,我上黎呢度問邊個責邊個?

打劫係犯法既,有神無神都應該拉去坐牢.唔通一個耶徒悍匪就可以去告場解或者禱告吓就算?呢個係現實社會,你屋企無人入去爆格,性命得到一定程度既保障都係因為法律.

咁似乎唔係傻同天真,一係你就對本埠現行衙門唔清楚/唔信任,一係你就認為除咗衙差同人民子弟兵之外重有人可以執行基本法所定立既法律.

回復 129# dye 的帖子

從來就沒有什麼救世主,也不靠神仙皇帝。
那他引用哪一條無神論論點?

(注意,基徒殺人引用的正正是和你讀的同一本書,引用和PAUL同一的道理)

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If he did cite reasonably secular humanism value to rob you, I will gladly apologize (and investigate).

[ 本帖最後由 dye 於 2008-2-21 15:31 編輯 ]
如果我尋日俾一個自稱為無神論者既人打劫,我今日上黎呢處搵人問責道歉,會否被認為「好天真、好傻」?
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