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Mat 12:39  耶穌回答說:「一個邪惡淫亂的世代求看神蹟,除了先知約拿的神蹟以外,再沒有神蹟給他們看。

為求表面事工,不擇手段.同開賭籌募戒賭基金有何分別.
回復 4# 淚兒

可以教變生命的方法有很多種.NLP是其中一種,學中國上古哲學,讀易經,學孔孟亦不失一個好方法.不喜學習的人,見到本聖經有小小道德教育,視為神蹟.

一次被人sell一個基教男人課程,要千七元.見以前學過的人分享,十分感動,大讚神的偉大奇移.你估是甚麼:
一大堆十NLP的感性內容,說不清.有一點具體,
要從你老婆的角度考慮,體會老婆.
一班新舊基督徒感動不已,大落男兒淚.

咁都要入camp學,重要驚為天降靈糧.可以教到d人咁低,非耶教莫屬.
我終於明白何謂信心.
信心就是不理客觀證據,你信有就有.指住隻狗話係馬就馬,話係6就6.
梁永善牧師 (基督教銘恩堂主任牧師)

幾年前看《挪亞方舟驚世啓示》只看到部份,今次這片段很真實,我很是感恩,因為神透過你們將挪亞方舟呈現世人眼前;這是很驚世的啓示錄,很值得我們去推廣,很震撼人心;所以求神祝福,祝福這運動能震撼全世界。
籲影音使團承認電影《挪亞方舟驚世啟示》(2005)超錯
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今日的我推翻昨日的我!
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抽刀斷水 發表於 2010/6/15 00:37


If this turns out to be a hoax, would they feel bad?
No, there is always another exploration trip, a repeat.
After all, the show has been attracting a lot of people's attention and therefore to God. Anyway, people tends to forget about lies. Do people remember that they had lied before. Obviously not. That is what makes the show going on and on.
For tourism, the local Turkish authority is very willing to help. That had happened before. They even open a park for the previous discovery.
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm

Please read carefully the following paragraph on the creation.com web site.
http://creation.com/noahs-ark-or-what

"Carl has already reported that he has just spent a full day observing substantial numbers of secular people being exposed to very well-presented truths about not just the Ark and Flood, but about the person and work of the Lord Jesus, in an extremely well-presented public attraction driven by the efforts of the people behind NAMI. He said that to him, this spoke volumes for their motivation and passion for the gospel. "

Would they be condemned because of their lie? No. They are being praised for their motivation and passion: lying for God.




馬丁路德名句:

"What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church...a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them."

如一個人為善、為基督的教會而說一個好的、有力的謊言 … 一個出於有須要的、有用的、有幫助的謊言,會有何害處呢?這類謊言是不會違反上帝的。衪會接受此等謊言的。
哈哈,翻舊賬,問你死未!

今日的我推翻昨日的我!
抽刀斷水 發表於 2010/6/15 00:37


科學...都是一樣.
今日的科學推翻昨天的真理
回復 13# beebeechan

聖經就更厲害
神父以昨日之鳩, 吸收所有昨日今日明日之經
有鳩有莖,
沙文也.
回復 15# beebeechan

昨日之鳩不可留, 今日之莖多煩憂
神父將之挖出來俾教友親眼見證其偉大
An evangelical group led by  Yueng Wing-cheung said they were "99.9 percent" for sure that a wooden structure found on the mountainside was part of a ship that housed the Biblical Noah, his family and a menagerie of creatures during a giant flood 4,800 years ago. But, Paul Zimansky, an archaeologist and historian at Stony Brook University who specializes in the the region around Ararat, known as Urartu, said "You have to take everything out of context except the Bible to get something tolerable, and they're not even working much with the Bible."Peter lan Kuniholm, Cornell archaeologist, who has focused on Turkey for decades said that the reported find is a "crock."

According to the article, Zimansky pointed out that Genesis identifies the mountains of Araraf as the landing zone for the ark, but not a specific peak. Over the centuries, 16,946-foot Mount Ararat and the nearby boat-shaped Durupinar rock formation have emerged as the favored locales for ark-hunters. There are lots of reports about discovery of the ark, but not always in the same place. The latest report in 2007 came upon a wooden structure "in the interiors of an unusual cave" at the 14,700-foot level of Ararat's slopes. Leaders of the Chinese-Turkish expedition (Noah's Ark Ministries International) said wooden specimens recovered from the structure on Ararat had been carbon-dated to yield an age of 4,800 years. The group said they found several compartments of wooden beams and so these were used to house animals. Noah's Ark Ministries International said the best explanation for the artifact's existence was.... you guessed it.

Zimansky said it's not inconceivable to him that they've found pieces of wood at that level, but that doesn't mean they've found an ark. More questions have been raised: Is the carbon dating accurate? Who did the test? Have the reporters properly trained? Is it more plausible that the structure is from a miraculous ark, or from an ancient shelter on the mountainside? Is there any evidence of a catastrophic flood that rose to near the top of Ararat 4,800 years ago?

Zimansky observed, "We know what's going on with Turkey archaeologically at that time, and there's no major interruption in the culture."  Kuniholm said, "There's not enough H2O in the world to get an ark that high up a mountain." Kuniholm said he was presented with earlier samples of wood from Ararat that he was told were dated to just 1,400 years ago. No other testing by independent organizations has been done at this time, and there has not been any word from the Turkish government about what will happen with the ark. [2]

Mike Pitt, a British archaeologist, also said the evangelical explorers had yet to produce compelling evidence. He added: 'If there had been a flood capable of lifting a huge ship 4km up the side of a mountain 4,800 years ago, I think there would be substantial geological evidence for this flood around the world. And there isn't.'[1]
Nicholas Purcell, a lecturer in ancient history at Oxford University, said the claims were the 'usual nonsense'. He added: 'If floodwaters covered Eurasia 12,000ft deep in 2,800BC, how did the complex societies of Egypt and Mesopotamia, already many centuries old, keep right on regardless?' The story was widely seen as fact until the 19th century, when scientists began to question the evidence for a worldwide flood.[1]

Original Article:
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/27/2280442.aspx

[1]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1269165/Noahs-Ark-remains-discovered-mountain-Turkey.html#ixzz0mOs6V44Z
[2] http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/34220/

COMMENT

Do you know why the "search" is led by a Hong Kong team?

This "discovery" provides a commercial advantage for the Hong Kong evangelical group. They "captured" 8 billion dollars from Hong Kong a few years ago to build the "Ma Wan Hong Kong, Noah's Ark". They use this park to spread their "faith" and create jobs for Christians. Such "discovery" is a big help for the business.

http://www.noahsark.com.hk/eng/index.php

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美國宗教大學Liberty University教授Randall Price最近發電郵給學生,表示曾參與探索過程,指整個「發現」都是偽造,木材實際是由黑海附近運到亞拉臘山。另一邊廂,土耳其文化旅遊部長表示會調查為何該國有官員未經批准便到香港召開「方舟」記者會。

Randall是Liberty University的人類學權威學者,多年來努力找尋《聖經》中的挪亞方舟。昨日互聯網上多個考古網站和網址均引述Randall的電郵,指有關發現是偽造(this is all reported to be a fake)。電郵指出,遺骸內部的相片全是在黑海某地拍攝,但中國人探索隊所拍的影片則的確在亞拉臘山錄影。他解釋,08年夏天有10名庫爾德人告訴他,一名中國人委聘的嚮導,聘請他們把黑海附近的木樑搬到亞拉臘山山洞,及至09年夏天,有更多的木材搬進山洞,其後中國人探索隊進入該山洞並錄影。
http://news.sina.com.hk/cgi-bin/nw/show.cgi/3/1/1/1503503/1.html

Dr. Randall Price, head of Judaic Studies at Liberty University, had been a cohort of the Noah's Ark Ministries International team until two years ago. He pulled out of the project, sensing they were being taken advantage of by Kurdish guides, who've turned Ark searching into a cottage industry.

"I think we can't rule out the possibility that this is a hoax, because a lot of the things that happen in that region of the world, and especially with the Kurdish guides that are involved, are designed to try to extract money from gullible people," Price said.

But he added: "I'm reserving my opinion at this point until I see how things are developing."

Dr. John Morris, lead archeologist at the Institute for Creation Research, says "I'm leaning towards that the Chinese people have been deceived."

Morris and Price were contacted by the Chinese team to take part in the press event, but they declined based on how little evidence they saw.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/201 ... nt-deter-believers/

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科學...都是一樣.
今日的科學推翻昨天的真理
-->  影音使團做既野真係很好笑...  錯唔緊要..又無交代...
科學只係不斷推論. 但影音使團係超核突.

我地只係話影音使團. beebee 唔好咁激動..
出帖時, 務請寫清楚主詞, 受詞
免除不必要的誤會.
樓主 (liberale) 出帖時, 標題(如下)都寫得頗清楚,
明顯是指影音使團超錯, 為何尚有誤會呢"

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