新移民, 聖誕節, 華人, 多倫多

抽刀斷水

人在異鄉倍思親 做彌撒、聽講經和鄉親聚會交流……聖誕節初體驗好溫馨

【本報多倫多訊】昨天聖誕節，教堂的鐘聲在多倫多各處敲響。不少來自華人新移民昨天走進教堂，他們不僅到教堂做彌撒，而且也到教堂尋求關愛和幫助。教會，成為許多新移民在此安居樂業的第一塊踏板。

位於士嘉堡、北約克的多家華人基督教會在聖誕節期間都安排許多活動。內容包括牧師講經、唱讚美詩、文藝表演、聚餐等。數百位新移民參加了這些活動。他們中不少人是第一次在加拿大過聖誕節。  

年初從福建移民來的姜妍昨天說，在國內時就聽人說加拿大的教會樂意幫助人。來多倫多以後，她便留意華人教會的情況。  

前不久，碰到本地華人基督教教會的教友，一番交談後，雙方都有緣分的感覺，於是她成為此教會的一員。  

當聖誕節臨近，姜妍的心情即好奇也有一點恐懼。因為是第一次在加拿大過聖誕節，他很想知道北美人怎樣過這個一年中西方最大節日的；但由於自己在這裡無親無故，認識的人有限，在喜慶的節日裡也難免備加寂寞。  

幸好教會的朋友安排了豐富的活動。平安夜裡，教會有演出、聚餐，之後大家到教友家聚會、聊天；聖誕節，大家又到教會聽講經，然後聚會交流。姜妍與許多新來的移民都覺得這個聖誕過得充實又快樂。  

在教會做義工多年的趙力峰表示，新移民初來乍到，他們在多倫多的各方面都需要人幫助。加上絕大部分新移民在此都沒有親人，因此一旦碰到不順利的情況，很容易出現情緒波動。  

他說，教會的工作就是幫助這些新移民度過難關，從而適應加拿大的生活。另一位教會義工陸淑芬也認為，教會是一個大家庭，有助於新移民排遣寂寞。  

在士嘉堡華堅華人基督教教會有一個大陸組，成員有超過百人，大多為來加定居在三年之內的新移民。  

在聖誕節，此教會大陸組的成員也像往年一樣聚在一起，每家人帶來自己做的一、兩味家鄉風味菜點，大家圍坐在一起，邊吃邊談，氣氛熱鬧而又親近。  

組裡的成員年年有所不同，有的新移民工作生活穩定後，就不再來參加活動了（抽按：醒目！ ）；但總是又有新的移民加入進來。

2007-12-26

http://www.worldjournal.com/wj-to-news.php?nt_seq_id=1645218

沙文

唔啱！工作生活穩定後仍然參加教会活動嘅新移民更為醒目。
蓋天有不測風雲，人有旦夕禍福，居安思危 -- (居安思危，思則有備，有備無患 《左傳‧襄公十一年》)
今雖工作生活穩定，但難保日後不會lay off，如果工作生活穩定後，就不再來參加活動，則好易被教友睇穿您係利用教會的network揾著數，一旦要再揾第份工，便很可能得不到教友的熱心協助。所以，只係「有的」新移民工作生活穩定後，就不再來參加活動，而有的更醒目新移民工作生活穩定後，就仍会再來參加活動

prussianz

>>>> 唔啱！工作生活穩定後仍然參加教会活動嘅新移民更為醒目

in my own humble opinion ,
the most 醒目 is 'the churches ,
they'r much more 醒目 + creative than my guestimation ,

>>>> 人在異鄉倍思親
>>>> 做彌撒、聽講經和鄉親聚會交流……
>>>> 聖誕節初體驗好溫馨

>>>> 人在異鄉倍思親
they do really know where'r 'the ``markets" , + ,
they do 'the caterring just great ,
no such thing or even concept in buddhism nor taoism e.t.c.

i  cant help but must admit : :::::
the churches -----> 醒目 very 醒目



[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 01:04 編輯 ]

沙文

No, pal, the truth is: they do stupid things in a smart way.

抽刀斷水

傻啦，浪費咁多時間。

假如真的一旦被lay off，到時就扮哂內疚咁，話以前疏於返教會是罪，貪於逸樂，以後都勤力返教會，七情上面，牧師一定會心軟既（唔心軟都要扮心軟 ）。

沙文

唔得嘅。佢係扮心軟，但又特登介紹唔到工俾您，一味叫您多啲祈禱，咪盞混吉。一於聽我勸，返教會霸住個位，以免無知小朋友坐咗，咁就助人助己，一舉兩得，何樂不為？

weakest

牧師本身係工la. 仲要幾好paid tim...

抽刀斷水

篇文無講話教會會介紹工作既喎，只係「有助於新移民排遣寂寞」咋。

同時，你坐左個位，你估就可以令無知小朋友無位坐咩？佢地一見有八、九成滿座，就立即再植堂啦。

prussianz

原帖由 抽刀斷水 於 2008-1-8 09:59 發表
傻啦，浪費咁多時間。

假如真的一旦被lay off，到時就扮哂內疚咁，話以前疏於返教會是罪，貪於逸樂，以後都勤力返教會，七情上面，牧師一定會心軟既（唔心軟都要扮心軟 ）。 ...

ThANKs4teaching ,
u render me immediatly smarter than those smartest churches ,
very useful 4 me in canada e.t.c.

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-8 12:09 發表
牧師本身係工la. 仲要幾好paid tim...

oyes
o yes ,
the clergymen//clergywomen//clergypersons of my [left] churches did stress
their pay being lower than that of outside ,

but ,
then , i delved deeper out ,
their salaries were `````````low"""""""" in comparson with that of internationnal big corps located in hk ,
e.g. : ::::: I.B.M.


[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:26 編輯 ]

weakest

they were indeed comparing their own with that of the internationnal big corporations located in hk ,
e.g. : ::::: I.B.M.

You mean some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

prussianz

>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2clerk ....

any query please dont hesitate2let me know right away

cheers ThANKye , pendragon

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-9 12:37 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

in order to b fair to them ,
so ,
i must make it clear that : :::::
my figures came from year 199x , but , must b4 year 1998
+
i have left the churches quite a long time ago , thence ,
i dont know their current pay ,
sorry4inconveniency


[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 22:41 編輯 ]

抽刀斷水

不如你分享一下你的信教及離教經歷，讓各位都了解你的思路歷程吧。

prussianz

its quite a tall + ``tall" tale ,
+
a pain in the ass. ,
should i have time then o k ,

i wish i could type in chinese , what a shame that i cant type it

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

1-position-which-i-didnt-or-indeed-couldnt-delve-into 's 牧師 ,

u know ,
there's no any such position as `````牧師"" iin the private commercial jobs markets ,

but ,
the pay of ``牧師" may b comparable to that of ````````` old師"""" .... o k  ..... 老師 教師 ,

what i mean really , is : :::::
the pay of ``牧師" may b comparable to that o'[of ] ....
教師 , in hk's government schools e.t.c. ,
教師 , in hk's government schools e.t.c. ,

抽刀斷水

Please... write in English and let me help to translate it.

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-8 20:21 發表
>> You mean
>> some high-level management positions in these multinational companies?

head2head ,
peer2peer ,
i.e.
same level to same level ,
e.g. : :::::
chairperson2chairperson e.t.c. ,
clerk2c ...

its rumoured that : :::::
some church may provide some kinds of `````performance-fees"""" or similar incentive schemes ,
right ??
sorry i cant confirm whether true or false , any evidence or counter-evidence ????
sorry ,
at the time
when
i was in church ,
i was in a junior level ,
so ,
sorry ,
i couldnt have any access to the transparency of their labours-payment-structures

disclaiming note !!!!!!!!! : :::::
even some church may really provide the `````performance-fees"""" or similar incentive schemes ,
but ,
that phenomen may b just only the affair////business done by that particular church only ,
i.e.
not every church may engage in such business .........
vice versa 2[too]
vice versa 2[too]

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-10 03:35 編輯 ]

weakest

In the rumour heard, is the "performance" counted by the number of people who newly join the chruches?

prussianz

原帖由 weakest 於 2008-1-9 18:46 發表
In the rumour heard, is the "performance" counted by the number of people who newly join the chruches?

sorry not know ,
i was too junior then , + ,
they appeared not enjoying to talk it more ,

i have even completly completely forgotten this rumour ,
but ,
ThANKs2God
ThANKs2God's Amazing Grace
your
>>>> 牧師本身係工la.
>>>> 仲要幾好paid tim...
awakenned
me
blastingly , ThANKye

this may b the so-called yun-fan //// yuan-fen //// co-incident so called by Chinese ,
oNo !!!!;--^)
no !;--^)
that must b God's Amazing Grace

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-10 01:26 編輯 ]