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(1) bishop Hosius, to forbid entirely the marriage of priests; but the motion met with strong opposition, and was rejected.(不見有此定案)
beebeechan 發表於 2024/1/9 22:43

話到明rejected又點會係定案，奇怪的腦袋。

(2)385 AD In the West, the first prohibition of clerical marriage, which laid claim to universal ecclesiastical authority, proceeded in 385 from the Roman church in the form of a decretal letter of the bishop Siricius to Himerius, bishop of Tarragona in Spain.
最後一個已婚的教宗是Adrian II(792-872)
怎會385年便有禁婚令?!
beebeechan 發表於 2024/1/9 22:43

The Directa decretal was written by Pope Siricius in February AD 385. It took the form of a long letter to Spanish bishop Himerius of Tarragona replying to the bishop’s requests for directa on various subjects sent several months earlier to Pope Damasus I. It became the first of a series of documents published by the Magisterium that claimed apostolic origin for clerical celibacy and reminded ministers of the altar of the perpetual continence required of them.

有禁婚令同實行到既時間差異，乃貴教內部矛盾問題。

(3)the church sent thousands and thousands of men to fight in the crusades against Islam. Before leaving, the Catholic church convinced many of these men to bequeath their property and possessions to the church.
(參軍的大部份是貧農, 你講到個個都係地主!)
beebeechan 發表於 2024/1/9 22:43

    你既然講得出「參軍的大部份是貧農」，咁講即係有少部分地主啦，即係知道有幾多百分比啦？即係知道財產有幾多啦下話？

beebeechan

話到明rejected又點會係定案，奇怪的腦袋。

but the motion met with strong opposition, and was rejected


抽刀斷水 2024/1/10 00:20 提交

咁無記錄可尋時，
上邊句咪肯定狗翕？

抽刀斷水

咁無記錄可尋時，
上邊句咪肯定狗翕？
beebeechan 發表於 2024/1/10 00:44

    無定案又唔同無記錄，又一次奇怪的腦袋。教徒面對自己所信奉信仰既歷史，真係會蠢啲？

After the legalization of Christianity in 313, greater discussion regarding clerical celibacy emerged.  At the ecumenical Council of Nicea I (325), Bishop Hosius of Cordoba proposed a decree mandating clerical celibacy, including for those clergy already married.  Egyptian Bishop Paphnutius, unmarried himself, rose in protest, asserting that such a requirement would be too rigorous and imprudent.  Rather, he proposed that those members of the clergy already married should continue to be faithful to their wives, and those who were unmarried should personally decide whether or not to be celibate.

https://catholicstraightanswers. ... riests-be-celibate/

不過我就唔知個minutes係邊個寫，呢個catholicstraightanswers website又係咪可信，聽聞係一位神父創辦。

beebeechan

你既然講得出「參軍的大部份是貧農」，咁講即係有少部分地主啦，即係知道有幾多百分比啦？即係知道財產有幾多啦下話？
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/10 00:20

你就講到個個戰死沙場的士兵都有地留俾教會咁:

After an estimated 1.7 million people died in the crusades, the Catholic church owned land all over Europe.

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你就講到個個戰死沙場的士兵都有地留俾教會咁:
beebeechan 發表於 2024/1/10 02:30

    你知就唔怕講出黎啦，你係咪都係估估吓咋下話？

beebeechan

不過我就唔知個minutes係邊個寫，呢個catholicstraightanswers website又係咪可信，聽聞係一位神父創辦。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/10 02:30

   

After the legalization of Christianity in 313, greater discussion regarding clerical celibacy emerged.  At the ecumenical Council of Nicea I (325), Bishop Hosius of Cordoba proposed a decree mandating clerical celibacy, including for those clergy already married.  Egyptian Bishop Paphnutius, unmarried himself, rose in protest, asserting that such a requirement would be too rigorous and imprudent.  Rather, he proposed that those members of the clergy already married should continue to be faithful to their wives, and those who were unmarried should personally decide whether or not to be celibate.

一個人動議, 一個人反對....咁就唔好咁隨便話:「motion met with strong opposition」喇...講到5大訢求, 缺一不可咁
(亞Steve Rudd落鹽落醋，　重手咗。。。食壞咗你）

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回覆 26# beebeechan


    strong opposition係形容反對既激烈，並唔係形容有幾多人一齊反對，又再一次奇怪的腦袋。

你呢排狀態都好差下，不如休息下先啦。

beebeechan

回覆  beebeechan


    strong opposition係形容反對既激烈，並唔係形容有幾多人一齊反對，又再一次奇怪 ...
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/10 02:47

有邊到睇到係strong ? 點激法先
大家都係主教級, 咁高咁大之喎

上流寄生族

不少宗教的神職人員都有獨身的要求，包括神父、修女、和尚、尼姑……

官方文獻對於神父獨身的要求，往往顧 ...
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/8 17:22

扮獨身
赢信任【ＴＲＵＳＴ信任　ＦＩＲＳＴ第一＜ＨＲＭ人事管理学＞】

beebeechan

回覆  beebeechan


    strong opposition係形容反對既激烈，並唔係形容有幾多人一齊反對，又再一次奇怪 ...
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/10 02:47

  尼西亞大公會議通過了20條教庭法規
https://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecum01.htm


第三條:
Canon 3 of the Council of Nicaea (325)

The great Council has absolutely forbidden bishops, priests, and deacons – in other words, all members of the clergy—to have with them a sister-companion with the exception of a mother, a sister, an aunt, or, lastly, only those persons who are beyond any suspicion.

咁算唔算係對Bishop Hosius of Cordoba 動議既 「strong rejection 」

beebeechan

早期教會雖容許神父教宗有老婆....但都要求神職人員唔好好似沙文咁性活躍 , 尤其是要主持彌撒前數天, 不要與老婆行房。

即使今日東正教會的神父, 進晉前可以曾結緍, 成為神父後就不可以。
成神父後仍可保持之前夫妻關係, 但要求兄妹關係, 唔係以扑為先既關係

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回覆 31# beebeechan


    有好多走盞位既，東正教會同天主教會之間又有東儀天主教會，規距又介乎兩者之間，至於行房日子具體要求、活躍程度、動機等等，我就唔明條腸做咩要畫埋出黎，同埋「口裡說不，身體卻很誠實」，人家有無按規矩做，唔通又要大家過目咩。

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回覆 30# beebeechan


    睇會議結果睇唔到過程，最好搵到份minutes。

beebeechan

回覆  beebeechan


    睇會議結果睇唔到過程，最好搵到份minutes。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/10 10:23

使唔使睇埋CCTV 片段?

beebeechan

同埋「口裡說不，身體卻很誠實」，人家有無按規距做，唔通又要大家過目咩。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/10 10:19

    任何規矩都有人唔遵守....
係咪因為咁就唔使定規矩?

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使唔使睇埋CCTV 片段?
beebeechan 發表於 2024/1/10 12:34

    對住你呢種包拗頸既人，CCTV、車cam真係好有用。

抽刀斷水

任何規矩都有人唔遵守....
係咪因為咁就唔使定規矩?
beebeechan 發表於 2024/1/10 12:41

    睇下最初定規矩既人既原意啦，如果我定呢個規矩「所有網友凡上本網討論區期間不得呼吸」，都預咗無人會遵守啦。

beebeechan

睇下最初定規矩既人既原意啦，如果我定呢個規矩「所有網友凡上本網討論區期間不得呼吸」，都預咗無 ...
抽刀斷水 2024/1/10 14:32 提交

    不至於唔准抖氣。
呢啲版規都好大路

無守既人都唔少，包括我。

嗰條無聊下流虫就成日衰（2）（3）喇

beebeechan

對住你呢種包拗頸既人，CCTV、車cam真係好有用。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/10 14:30

又衰在你講既野, 樣樣都有得拗。

beebeechan

對住你呢種包拗頸既人，CCTV、車cam真係好有用。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2024/1/10 14:30

當你上到天國, 與那位alpha and omega在一起時，　無時間領域，　可玩「穿越」。。。。
回到尼西亞會議現埸都得。