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周兆祥:只有耶穌才有拯救真的嗎?

有意思

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Salvation outside of the Church
Traditional and modern views

The Catholic Church traditionally taught that only those who were believers and members of the Catholic Church could be saved. There was no salvation for those outside of the Church.

The Council of Florence, 1441, stated that The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church... can have a share in life eternal...

Pope Pius IX in his encyclical letter (1863) said that Well known is the Catholic teaching that no one can be saved outside the Catholic Church. This refers to the belief that only those who are in full communion with the Catholic Church and accept the teachings and magisterium of the Church can be saved.

However, Pope Pius goes on to state that even people who are ignorant to the faith can achieve eternal life, as long as they live moral lives and follow the natural law as set out by God. God will not condemn those who have not committed a deliberate sin.

This statement by Pope Pius was further explained by the Second Vatican Council. It was made clear that although salvation can only come through Christ Jesus and the Catholic Church (of which Jesus is the Head), people outside of the Church can also achieve salvation. This does not mean that the Church should stop all its work though. It means that the Church’s mission to educate others about Christ is more important.

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

CCC 847 (Catechism of the Catholic Church)

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抽按:資深天主教版友說老子唔好彩可能下地獄,原來我一直以為好資深就可藉著他來為我引領慕道之路,睇黎我可能行錯路至真……
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咁佢都係說「可能」唶,
正如你也不會知道老子是否:「who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart,  ...
beebeechan 發表於 2021/12/6 21:48



    教徒修辭學真係與別不同。
為咗紀念今次同教徒既對話,我又開咗一題新既超短基版FAQ喇:

問:耶穌說:我就是道路、真理、生命;若不藉著我,沒有人能到父那裡去。〔約14:6(和合本)〕
答:在耶穌未講這句之前的所有人,死後是否全部都要下地獄?
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不能得救, 不一定看「有没有信」
也會看有没有「蓄意抗拒, 明確拒絕, 叛逆。。」 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2021/12/7 00:08



    咁你點演譯「藉著/經過耶穌」既意思?
請原諒我有啲攰,有啲doem,唔寫啦,抄貼算啦:

    我話過離天主越遠人就越蠢,都叫咗你唔好坐埋嗰張枱 ...
逃出魔幻紀 發表於 2021/12/7 00:07



    明既,辛苦哂。
回覆 16# beebeechan

比喻一般只係用黎幫助理解,但佢唔係所要理解既事物本身,單靠比喻並非一個有效回應。

不如你試下用比喻之前,將個concept搞清楚先。
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