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係囉...做咗乜呢
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 01:02

    中國人有句說話：先撩者賤，打死無怨。

請繼續。

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你都無令我失望, 真係幾「求其」。
搵個影相佬既 blog...就當搵到料咁
佢又唔係做乜學術研究既.....雖然 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 01:27

    繼續啦：

During the Portuguese invasion and subsequent rule of Goa around five centuries back, the idol was taken out of the original temple at Karmali alias Carambolim village on the island of Tiswadi. The idol was later installed at Sattari and then at Valpoi and finally at a small shrine at Nagargaon, on the banks of a stream in a dense forest.

https://touristinindia.com/brahm ... ous-temple-trinity/

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當日黑暴時, 警察真係要開實彈鎗....砰..砰..砰..一句「先撩者賤，打死無怨」,, 咁就唔使拖成大半年。 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 01:27

     咁點呀？宗徒多默死之前做咗啲咩呀？

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你咁求其, 我點同你認真呢?

出完影相佬, 就出導遊
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 01:43

然後又出報紙佬，又話求其就收貨？

    Sattari came under the Portuguese rule only around 1773-5. Before that, these were lands under the feared Ranes. The Portuguese army had to rethink a hundred times before even contemplating attacking these areas as they faced many humiliating retreats against the swift moving Rane armies. This factor rendered these places safe for establishing the many deities which had to take flight from their original locations.

Similarly, this Brahma idol was shifted from Carambolim (Karmali) to Nagargao, Sattari to save it from religious persecution. The village was then named after this as Brahma-Karmali or Brahma-Carambolim. It is said that the original name of this ward was ‘Chandivde’.

https://www.navhindtimes.in/2019 ... a-in-brahmakarmali/

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他在印度Kerala使唔少印度人歸化, 建立了七個教堂....搶咗印度教祭司生意.
給印度祭司以「先撩者賤，打死 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 01:53

咁叻叻呀？咁又係因為邊一瓣先搶到生意呢？

    當時的印度原著民若入教
(1)取消印度教的社會階級觀, 受低下層歡迎
(2)取消寡婦陪夫火葬習俗 sati
(3)不用當殖民者的奴隷, 回復自由身
(4) 女, 寡婦也可以與男丁平等, 分家族內的財產

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你既報紙佬就話Sattari 1773年才落入葡萄牙人手上, 所以神廟神像才逃過大難。

但係葡萄牙既史佬自已都話宗教審裁1812先取消。
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 03:52

    後勁不繼嘛：Goa Inquisition was established in 1560, briefly suppressed from 1774 to 1778, continued thereafter until it was finally abolished in 1812.  -- Lauren Benton (2002). Law and Colonial Cultures: Legal Regimes in World History, 1400-1900. Cambridge University Press. pp. 114–126. ISBN 978-0-521-00926-3.

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加多個矛盾
文章話印度教要將梵天像由Karmali搬去satarri 以避摧毀



網上講到葡萄牙宗教審裁咁霸道, 人 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 06:06

There can be miracles when you believe~~

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好似麻甩佬咁, 搞完一野, 抖抖....又起過。
雖第二炮無第一炮咁激....都可以XX迭起架喎 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 21:46

    响葡萄牙本土都開始廢緊宗教裁判所啦，仲掛住玩。

Inquistion banned by Marques De Pombal

The liberal minister of Portugal Marquez de Pombal, as a result of a measure of reform passed in September, 1774, rendered the Inquisition practically defunct and it was finally abolished in 1820.

He abolished slavery in Portugal and in the Portuguese colonies in India; reorganized the army and the navy; and ended discrimination against different Christian sects in Portugal.

Banning of religious Christian orders in Goa & Portugal

Most importantly, He also banned the various religious orders in Portugal which he felt had too much influence & power. Also their corruption & manipulation of the economy.

The same happened in Goa. ( These were the driving force for the inquisition) and at one time had more power than the viceroy or King.

These religious orders could have even put the Viceroy of Portuguese India or even the king on trial if they felt compelled.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-history-of-the-Goan-Inquisition

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是梵天行神蹟?
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/28 21:46

    等你以為條屍無爛就好Ｑ叻喎。

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梵天大神叫個像自己行去 sattari ？
或是玩空間轉移？
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/29 00:34

    有得解釋就唔係神蹟啦～

條屍抽咗真空？浸過福爾馬林？

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一眼又睇出個矛盾勒...
若然亞 Pombal 1774 廢咗宗教審裁,
點解史書上又寫係1820 廢既呢?
1774-1820之間 ...
beebeechan 2022/9/29 02:53 提交

    由漸漸陰乾到正式宣佈廢除，四十幾年唔算好長丫。

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沙勿略遺體無抽真空, 又無浸過福爾馬林, 就係唔腐。唔明點解。
所以......依你定義...真係一件神蹟勒 ...
beebeechan 2022/9/29 02:23 提交

    所以咪話你雙重標準囉，人地啲野就話無邏汁有矛盾，自己啲野就無問題係神蹟。

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古有沙勿略求其幫果阿人洗禮，擾亂宗教秩序，導致其後需要做宗教裁判。

今有醫生涉嫌濫發「免針紙」，擾亂防疫措施，導致需要廢除這批醫生開的免針紙。
https://news.now.com/home/local/player?newsId=491761

醫生要蒙頭被人拉，沙勿略都要問責。

歷史真係重複循環不息。

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咁我真係唔知點解沙勿略遺體不腐.
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/29 08:44

    司空見慣當神蹟
揭密：200年後乾隆后屍體為何不腐 - 歷史 - 網推 (chinatimes.com)
科學知識/揭開屍身不腐之謎 (takungpao.com.hk)


連所謂既內容農場都有，可見幾咁普遍：
探索歷史上屍體不腐之謎 - 每日頭條 (kknews.cc)

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條屍幾百年無爛就打鑼打鼓，咁如果畀你知道有條屍幾千年都唔爛，咪要跪地抱頭痛哭流淚？
揭祕：漢代女屍不腐背後真相讓全國上下震驚！ - 歷史趣聞網 (lsqww.com)

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千年不腐係因為（1）密封，（2）棺液，（3）脫水。三個情況都用不著在沙勿略身上。

你都識講哩：解釋到既 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/29 17:17

    篇文話：……而墓中的種種發現至今也無法解釋，其中以女屍的不腐最讓人感到神奇……雖然科學家花了很多的方法去探索漢代古屍為何不腐爛，但是至今依然沒有解開這個謎底……具體原因是什麼，相信已經沒有辦法能夠解開這個謎底了……很難讓科學家理解……而對於其為何能夠保存的如此完整依然沒有辦解釋的……其為何能夠保持千年不腐，科學家對於這方面的研究一直沒有得出一個結論……

總結：無結論、解唔到

所以，漢代女屍都係神蹟，而且比沙勿略幾百年貨仔更神聖。

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你呢帖咁講
就同意咗果阿宗教審裁不是針對當地信開印度教既人, 要逼佢地改信天主教..唔改就燒呢個講法
審裁係針對口中說信天主教攞著數, 暗中又拜印度神嗰啲。
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/29 21:40

    我無同意過，細路先要揀既啫，宗教裁判，why not both?

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前來話要受洗的人, 佢地個心想乜, 暗中既目的係無得証架喎。
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/29 21:40

    你咁即係話依家受洗前要讀course考試合格呢個制度都係廢既？

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回覆 727# leefeng


    厲害呀，搵到咁多「神蹟」。

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翕ｍｕｄ
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/29 22:52

    宗教裁判既搞「假信教」的人，又搞「信假教」的人，一齊搞，多啲黎，密啲手啫，無衝突架喎。