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為何基督教兩千年來至今仍屹立不倒?

原帖由 沙文 於 2008-2-18 02:31 發表
其實我一早發表過啦:世上只有兩條終極真理

您地冇人留心我的偉大哲學理論之嘛。


what's your 兩條終極真理 ??

what's your 偉大哲學理論 ?? cheers ThANKye

原帖由 小妹 於 2008-2-18 00:15 發表
weakest:
seems that i didn't explain well enuf.....
it's not a matter of one's IQ or ability to think critically. The point is, NO ONE KNEW THE TRUTH(about the shape of the world at THAT time.)
Will  ...


My Fair Lady 小妹 ,

  hi greeting good morning ,

  couldest thou declare whether thou wert a Catholic or Protestant ?

  cheers ThANKye bestrespects , pendragon
原帖由 沙文 於 2008-2-18 06:40 發表
拿,我一早話過:
http://exchristian.hk/forum/view ... 1238&extra=page%3D3

呢兩條真理之所「終極」,係因為如果有上帝的話,連上帝都服從。
今次此條thread涉及者,主要係第2條:Murphy's Law

大秦景教能屹立X年不倒,冇錯 ...


sorry , there'r just too many posts under that thread , + , i have so limitted time, ..........

so ,
couldest thou do a little bit of summary of 'the 2條 ??

cheers ThANKye
原帖由 Guest from 218.111.36.x 於 2008-2-18 22:59 發表
數百年前
基督徒屠殺印第安人、掠奪土地以實現基督教屹立千年不倒的理想

百年前
基督徒暗地裡協助西方列強以鴉片毒害中國民眾、又自導自演化身神子民再出現解救中國民眾 以實現基督教屹立千年不倒的理想

往後
基督徒又會以何種血腥手段去維護基督教屹立千年不倒的理想 ﹖﹖


百年後 ,
this time ,
1 of 'the ways which they would : ::::::::::
基督徒 , with 西方列強's financial 協助 , 暗地裡 ,
via tvb or atv [[[[[[[[[ or anything such-alike ]]]]]]]]]
via those non-Christian-like Christiannised tvprogrammes , 毒害中國民眾

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-2-20 06:22 編輯 ]
原帖由 weakest 於 2008-2-18 23:00 發表
Also, Christianity would provide an incentive for the believers to fulfill the obligations of citizens (e.g. paying tax). "該撒之物歸之於該撒,上主之物歸之於上主"ma...

As such, it provides a useful too ...


new point , unique point ,


Jom:
For that point, I refer to some of the believers (especially those whoare controlled). If this combines with my point in post #45, would itbe a more complete story?

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-2-20 07:19 編輯 ]
原帖由 Guest from 218.208.230.x 於 2008-2-18 01:36 發表
因為基督教盡得他幕後主子撒旦的真傳

善於 “  偽裝  ”


My Fair Lady 小妹 ,

couldest thou please include this point in thy summarisationnal list as well ?

cheers ThANKye , pendragon

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-2-20 05:32 編輯 ]
原帖由 小妹 於 2008-2-18 23:45 發表


據現在常用分類:  Protestant. but i'd rather call myself a Christian. To me, what branch a Christian belongs to doesn't really matter. The core value of their faith is what I look at. Maybe will elab ...


>>>> btw...你在外地嗎? 若然在香港, 4點幾都唔訓....好傷身的.

ThANKye ,

o yes , sometimes 在外地 ,

but ,
but also .........

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-2-20 07:19 編輯 ]
原帖由 小妹 於 2008-2-18 23:45 發表


據現在常用分類:  Protestant. but i'd rather call myself a Christian. To me, what branch a Christian belongs to doesn't really matter. The core value of their faith is what I look at. Maybe will elab ...


ThANKye again ,

>>>>>>>>> The core value of their faith is what I look at
i'd like2suggestye2 .... also take a look of the core's value of other believes[[[[[beliefs]]]] ,
e.g. : ::::: confucian , 道教﹐佛教﹐回教﹐印度教 , jainism , e.t.c.
expecially those of chinese ,
which , up2now ,
[[[[[[[[[ although there'r certainly some religious quarrels ]]]]]]]]]
do not cause any inter-religion wars nor any intra-religion wars as those in 'the West ,

history , the best witness [[[[[[[[[ over 2000 years of history here ]]]]]]]]]

v'r so lucky of them
i'm so proud of them
原帖由 Guest from 118.100.106.x 於 2008-2-19 20:58 發表
基督教屹立兩千年來至今一大原因係因為 “ 殺戮別人、殺戮別教 ‘

為何基督徒到現在都不願承認 呢﹖

被殺的人真係咁賤 ﹖連豬狗都不如 ﹖﹖

要基督徒承認錯誤真係咁難 ﹖

基督徒 ﹐你有良知的嗎 ﹖ ...


o yes ,

e.g. : ::::: live burning of witches , regardless of any perspective , must b 100.000.000% wrong ,
expecially so true construed by todays laws ,

too many many similar examples to quote here
原帖由 Guest from 221.125.57.x 於 2008-2-19 18:03 發表
I think Richard Dawkins has it best.

When an old man/woman talk to a child in a serious tone about something, evolution will have the child memorize it regardless of what it really is.  It is an evol ...


hi
high welcome2Dye !

7. It is a by-product of evolution.  A misfiring, just like people whomasterbrate when nature is really interested in reproduction. (orpeople who are on opium, when the evolution of the pleasure system isintended for something totally different - like feed yourself!)


sorry not quite get it ,

d'u mean the Christiannity = a misfiring , just like
````` people whomasterbrate ''''' ......... ````` orpeople who are on opium '''' ????

should 'the answer b positive , then , 100.000% me agree !!
原帖由 小妹 於 2008-2-19 12:40 發表
抽刀, 請不必擔心. 小妹並非那些容易受傷的脆弱小女生. 不過都謝謝你啦!

版規寫得很清楚: 言論自由, 尊重他人.  
這裡有些人是很樂意坦誠討論的.
一個理性的人, 應該懂得控制自己的情緒, 別要感情用事, 被蒙蔽看不 ...


感情 , i'd like2suggest my sincere 感情 2thee for thy kind personnal list consideration ,

cheers ThANK ye My Fair Lady

!!!!!!!!!
note the wet blanket : :::::
nothing but only junks4fun ,

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-2-20 14:24 編輯 ]
原帖由 M2 於 2008-2-20 11:52 發表
如果果節經文太難解,可以睇以下呢節:太 22:14 因為被召的人多,選上的人少。
我認為根本唔應該用世上有幾多信徒來看基督教的成敗,而根據聖經所講,信徒亦點都唔會成為大多數。

信仰是個人的決擇,唔受地域網域限制。所以"呢 ...


sorry 'm confused , 'r u Christian , My Dear Sir M2 ? cheers ThANKye
原帖由 小妹 於 2008-2-19 23:00 發表
oops...遺漏了, 對不起.
不過請問一句: 幻想中這3個字為何如此重要?

1. 有人於獨立思考/批判思考等方面天真及傻.
2. fear of punishment after death, and the reward after-life
3. 人的奴性以及依賴性萬年不變
4. ...


My Fair Lady 小妹  ,

more truth o' Bible , please see
http://truthbible.net/
`````令人戰慄的聖經''''
cheers ThANKye bestrespects
原帖由 Paul_Bard 於 2008-2-21 11:25 發表
To 小妹 : M2和我是這裡少數基督徒~

To M2 : 很少這麼齊人, 來揍揍熱鬧先~


少數 ......... o yes , really , too 少 ,

hi high welcome ,
很少 seeing u , My Dear Sir Paul , nice 2 c u again , cheers



[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-2-22 04:47 編輯 ]
原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-2-21 12:25 發表
>1. 當時基督教係國教, 大部份人都係"名義"的教徒~

原來這世界有那麼多無聊的人會把自己的性命像雜草一樣丟出去用來殺人。
他們還真可憐哪 - 當年就是超越眾道德的英雄
棋子用完之後就變成了名義的教徒。

此外,不 ...


>>>> 你還是先公佈一下今天殺人股行程再說吧

sorry , My Dear Sir Nomad , couldest thou shed some light up on what's `````殺人股行程'''' ??

cheers ThANKye , pendragon
原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-2-21 15:40 發表


沒有神就代表"人不為己,天誅地滅"?
...難怪那些同樣相信從來就沒甚麼救世主的佛教僧人,還有新儒家的可憐傢伙,會在短短二十年間被基督徒們灌以各種不知所謂的罪名了。 ...


sorry , i'm too fresh here ,

if u guys have some time , could any 1 please show me some examples here-about ??

cheers ThANKye
原帖由 dye 於 2008-2-21 16:34 發表
It is a genocide

Joshua 10
40 So Joshua subdued the whole region, including the hill country, the Negev, the western foothills and the mountain slopes, together with all their kings. He left no survi ...


>>>> Oh, do you need to murder the kids, and the elderly?
>>>> Good old Joshua murdered these fellow even AFTER their army is subdued.

O yes , completly completely in 'the agree ,
+ ,
do you also need to murder those 100.000.000% innocent cattle, sheep and donkeys.

that must have been done by 'the non-devils-like devils ------>>>> Joshua + his men
that must have been done by 'the devils-not-called-as-devils ------>>>> Joshua + his men
that must have been done by 'the devils-hailed-as-goodmen-etc  ------>>>> Joshua + his men

原帖由 dye 發表

Situation in city God wanted to conquer [[[[[[[[[ : : ]]]]]]]]]

Joshua 6
20 When the trumpets sounded, the people shouted, and at the sound ofthe trumpet, when the people gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; soevery man charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devotedthe city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing init—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.
原帖由 M2 於 2008-2-21 16:36 發表
如果趕人走唔算種族清洗,以色列趕哂d巴人走咪攪掂?
講到底呢個係爭奪土地既問題。

而家世界既共識(so to speak)係反對更改國界,但現時既國界咪係靠前人打生打死爭番黎。點解以前既人野蠻(以現代人既眼光)搶番黎既地方,而家就變左神聖不可侵犯既領土?如果支持維持現有國界,係未等於endorse以前既野蠻行為?


i endorse u here ;--^)
原帖由 Guest from 147.8.237.x 於 2008-2-21 17:08 發表
There are so many posts.........

  Hi Paul and M2, it's the first time for me to reply you two.

  Well, for those who kill under the Christian name, how could you be sure they are not "real Christia ...


>>>>>>>>>  By weakest (not dared to login as I am now in public area)

hi welcome to  遊客 147.8.237.x , oNo , its My Dear Sir Weakest , long time n'o c ,;--^)

>>>>>>>>>  (not dared to login as I am now in public area)

ThANKs 4 reminding me of this safety's approach
原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-2-21 17:27 發表
Advice: READ.

>就是因為無論前因後果,現代的人已經住在那裡
>現時再行改動(尤其根本不知道誰的傳說才對)只會無謂的發動國間戰爭,才有不改動國界的想法
>(尤其他們並沒有參與屠殺也不從屬同一個政府)
>(就連日本政府二次大戰前後都是改制的,只有基督教是二千年以來同一個。)
>其次,並不是每個國界都是侵略得來的 - 尤其是那些被歐洲一眾基督徒榨乾到農地都沒有的一眾非洲可憐國度。

By the way, you really have no idea how much idle land were there in the past?


>>>> 刀不出鞘才是劍術最高的境界
>>>> 難道連這一點也不明白嗎?

my suggestion : ::::::::::

your 刀 being 出鞘 , ecspecially @ here , 才是 [[your]]劍術 最高的境界 ,
cause : :::::
i have been blinded by the glaring brightness unleashed by your 刀 , which is being 出鞘 @ here
;;--^)

  cheers , pendragon , yours humbly standing here by your side ,

p.s. : ::::::::::
too many other good phrases from u , to b quoted all here

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