本帖最後由 jimmychauck 於 2025/8/1 06:26 編輯
喂你唔識回果啲，回左先，一味開新話題即係轉話題唔識答。
回覆 236# beebeechan
你又錯勒。 人人皆司祭唔係伯多祿創出嚟。 佢只係複述出谷紀19章天主訓示梅瑟, 要佢去轉話的一句:
出谷紀 19:6
但你們為我應成為司祭的國家，聖潔的國民。你應將這些話訓示以色列子民。」
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 01:34 
啲野唔係彼得發明，佢為出埃及記背書，就唔代表佢冇講，更加唔代表佢反對或唔認同。
作祭司的國度呢，就根本唔係人人皆祭司，聖經都講得好清楚只有利未支派先係祭司啦，係喺萬民中作唯一有祭司的國。等萬國可以黎以色列朝拜啫。
就要在萬民中作屬我的子民，因為全地都是我的。你們要歸我作祭司的國度，為聖潔的國民。』
咩叫"耶穌未救贖前已經係人人皆司祭, 不過, 天主仍要肋未人當司祭喎"，作得就作
即是人人皆司祭時, 不是人人都可以做獻祭的祭司。
正如今日, 人人皆司祭時, 仍要神父當獻祭的祭司。
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 01:34
你好似對舊約好有研究咁喎，咁你唔知祭係分開贖罪之祭同馨香之祭㗎咩？
贖罪之祭我講左N次，大祭司獻完一次永遠嘅贖罪祭之後就坐低㗎啦。你成日話要咩神父司祭星期日先獻得果啲，到底係咩祭？贖罪祭就一早獻完啦，按你咁講即係果啲咩將身體獻上當作活祭果啲就神父司祭先有資格做啦，一般信徒唔俾做啦？
同埋彼得嘅原話都同出埃及記有出入㗎，彼得係話信徒係有君尊嘅祭司嘛，舊約以色列人君王同祭司一定要分開㗎啦。
你天主教咁鍾意喺神耶穌同人中間插個身入黎，根本就係存心要將人同耶穌隔絕，叫人信你唔係信耶穌，所以咪洗腦左一批教會講乜都聽，聖經講乜都當乞嗤嘅張口就來信徒囉。
有基督的血洗淨我嘅罪，我呢，就坦然進入至聖所，你咪繼續喺出面攬住啲咩神父教宗彌撒聖體告解囉。
喂係咪犯左致於死嘅罪就基督嘅血無效必須揾神父告解否則落地獄？從以前開始問左你好多次啦，你捨得答未？
其實成條問題，我一問gemini，個prompt冇任何我想要嘅內容提示，佢都答晒我講嘅野出黎啦。
咪一樣係話，信徒皆祭司，獻靈祭唔係贖罪祭，新舊約有分別，啲野新約先應驗囉。
你完全無視聖經文本意思，詮釋嘅方法，一味照搬天主教教你嘅，你根本就俾人洗左腦。
Q: does 1 peter 2:9 royal priesthood comes from exodus 19:6?
A: Yes, there is a direct and significant connection between 1 Peter 2:9 and Exodus 19:6. In 1 Peter 2:9, the Apostle Peter is quoting from and re-applying the language originally used by God to describe the nation of Israel in the Old Testament.
Let's look at the two passages side-by-side:
- Exodus 19:6: "and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation."
- 1 Peter 2:9: "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light."
Peter is explicitly taking the titles and promises given to Israel and applying them to New Testament believers, both Jews and Gentiles, who are now part of the Church. This shows a powerful theological continuity and fulfillment.
The Significance of this Connection:
- Corporate Identity: In the Old Testament, God chose the nation of Israel to be his special people. Peter declares that the Church—the community of believers in Christ—is now this "chosen race" and "holy nation."
- Priesthood of All Believers: In the Old Covenant, a specific group of people (the Levites and descendants of Aaron) were designated as priests to mediate between God and the people. The promise in Exodus 19:6, that the entire nation would be a "kingdom of priests," was an ideal that found its ultimate fulfillment in the New Covenant. In Christ, all believers have direct access to God and are called to serve as priests.
- Purpose: Both passages share a common purpose: to "proclaim the excellencies" of God. Israel was meant to be a light to the nations, demonstrating God's character and truth. In the New Testament, the Church's priestly function is to bear witness to the world about the saving work of Christ, who called them out of darkness into light.
In short, Peter uses the language of Exodus 19:6 to demonstrate that the blessings and responsibilities once entrusted to Israel are now fulfilled in the multi-ethnic, global body of Christ.
Q: so why not everyone in the kingdom of priests are priests?
A: The premise of your question—"why not everyone in the kingdom of priests are priests?"—is based on a misunderstanding of what "priesthood" means in the context of the New Testament. The biblical teaching is that every single person within the "kingdom of priests" is a priest.
The confusion often arises from contrasting the New Testament understanding of priesthood with the Old Testament model or with a hierarchical model found in some modern church traditions.
Let's break down the two main points:
1. The Priesthood of All Believers
The phrase "royal priesthood" in 1 Peter 2:9 refers to what is known in Christian theology as the "priesthood of all believers." This concept teaches that every Christian has direct access to God through Jesus Christ, who is our ultimate and only High Priest.
This is a radical departure from the Old Covenant system where:
Only a select few (the descendants of Aaron from the tribe of Levi) were priests.
The priests had a specific, mediating function: offering animal sacrifices and incense on behalf of the people to God.
Only the High Priest could enter the Holy of Holies once a year.
In the New Covenant, through the work of Jesus, all of that changes. The Old Covenant priesthood is now obsolete because Jesus's one-time sacrifice was perfect and sufficient. As a result, the New Testament teaches that all believers share in a spiritual priesthood.
2. The Role and Functions of the New Testament Priest
If every Christian is a priest, what is their function? It's not to offer animal sacrifices, but to offer "spiritual sacrifices" (1 Peter 2:5). These sacrifices include:
- Offering our bodies as a living sacrifice (Romans 12:1).
- Praising and worshiping God (Hebrews 13:15).
- Doing good and sharing with others (Hebrews 13:16).
- Interceding in prayer for others.
Therefore, according to the New Testament, there is no longer a special class of people (like the Old Testament priests) who act as mediators between God and other believers. The entire community of Christians is the "kingdom of priests" and every member has the privilege and responsibility to perform these spiritual priestly functions.
So, to answer your question directly: everyone in the "kingdom of priests" is a priest in the New Testament sense of the word. They may not hold the specific office of an elder, pastor, or deacon, which are leadership and teaching roles, but they all share in the common priesthood established by Christ.
Q: the kingdom of priests is in old testament exodus, why not everyone in the old testament kingdom of priests a priest?
A: That is an excellent and very perceptive question. It highlights a key distinction between the Old Testament ideal and its practical application, which is then fulfilled in the New Testament.
In the Old Testament, the "kingdom of priests" in Exodus 19:6 had two meanings:
1. The Corporate, National Priesthood (Ideal)
When God told Israel they would be a "kingdom of priests," he was giving them a corporate mission and identity. This meant the entire nation of Israel, as a whole, was to function as a priestly nation to the rest of the world.
Their role: To mediate the knowledge of the one true God to all other nations.
Their purpose: By living according to God's holy law, they were to be a visible testament to God's character and power, showing the world what it meant to have a relationship with the divine. They were to be a beacon of light, drawing other nations to worship God.
In this sense, every Israelite was part of this collective, national priesthood.
2. The Functional, Cultic Priesthood (Reality)
While the entire nation had this high calling, God immediately instituted a specific, functional priesthood for the purpose of ritual and sacrifice. This role was reserved exclusively for the descendants of Aaron from the tribe of Levi.
Their role: To perform the official duties of the Tabernacle and later the Temple. They were the ones who offered animal sacrifices, burned incense, and mediated between a holy God and a sinful people.
The reason for the distinction: The establishment of this specific priestly class was a direct result of humanity's sin and God's absolute holiness. The rest of the nation was not holy enough to handle the sacred objects or perform the rites of atonement. God's holiness was so intense that direct contact could be fatal. The Aaronic priesthood acted as a barrier and a mediator, protecting the people from God's holiness while protecting God's holiness from the people's sinfulness.
A clear example of this tension is found in Exodus 32. After God makes the promise in Exodus 19, the Israelites immediately sin by worshiping the golden calf. This event demonstrates their unholiness and the urgent need for a dedicated, mediating priesthood.
The Fulfillment in the New Testament
The New Testament teaches that Jesus Christ, as our perfect High Priest, fulfills both of these roles.
He is the single, ultimate priest who offered a perfect, once-and-for-all sacrifice, making the Aaronic priesthood obsolete.
Because of His perfect sacrifice, every believer is now made holy in Him. This holiness allows the ideal of the "kingdom of priests" from Exodus 19:6 to finally be realized. Every Christian can now approach God directly and shares in the corporate mission of being a priestly nation, representing God to the world. |
