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回覆 100# 抽刀斷水

也不一定,呢句詞我聽過,創世記蛇都話"也不一定死"。都係果句,貫徹始終,唔好一時一樣,我相信呢個係世俗都看得起嘅標準。咁你倚靠嘅係可變嘅世事,就同我倚靠嘅唔同呀。論述有利完,跟手又改,偷了便宜又賣乖呢種態度,我就唔敢擁有。

你係單純提供情緒支援,而無貫徹始終嘅道理可言嘅,都冇問題,你肯承認就得㗎啦,弊在每次指出你呢樣野,你就喺度話術咩人會變如水乜乜乜啫。

我為什麼"渴望"穩定不變?大部份正常科學家都相信佢研究嘅物理或科學定律係不變㗎啦,唔通你認為自然科學嘅呢個"定律不變"嘅假設係錯嘅?如果科學定律都不變,邏輯道理難道又應該改變?

定律改變?Henry morris喺"科學創造論"一書度講過㗎。
有啲進化論支持者嘗試反駁熱力學第二定律解讀出黎嘅"沒有事物無限,序度有限,故宇宙有開端",就話"也許很久以前,熱力學第二定律並不存在"。Henry Morris就話:咁咪即係有創世嘅過程囉。

你咁忌諱不變嘅定律,咁你點可能認為物質界係從亙古永存?點可能否定有物質界以外嘅界?
你咁忌諱不變嘅定律,點樣可以說服推崇科學嘅人?

即係,你唔用啲好嘅理由去同我講,一味單單打打講啲不切實際咩你幾時想離教點點點,真係一啲意思都冇。

睇過吓你嘅blog,就覺得你每每前設左,基督教嘅問題出現喺教會為左吸金生存,為左生存吸金度。奉獻全個月嘅糧我試過,好耐唔奉獻我一樣試過,就從無見到教會對我嘅對待有咩差別。教會作為一個世間運作嘅機構,係當然會要接觸金錢。我唔係話冇一味為左吸金而吸金嘅教會存在,亦都有唔少教會高層係被金錢利誘嚴重失足瀆職,但一樣有唔少教會係只在乎神嘅供應去服事人群去傳福音,就算占某人狠批並且睇唔起嘅平X福音堂,啲堂會運營冇問題嘅時候,我都少有聽過關於奉獻嘅教導,並且佢係唔會傳奉獻袋,只會喺一個唔起眼嘅角落擺個奉獻箱喺度,話邊啲弟兄姐妹有感動咪自己奉獻,邊啲人奉獻幾多,只得負責果個司庫知道,(如果用銀行入數)因為年尾要出張奉獻收據可用黎退稅,咁擺現金就更加死無對證。英國嘅慕勒先生就係另一個例子啦,開5間孤兒院,佢就單單憑信心仰賴神嘅供應,幾大開銷都唔同出面講,從不慕捐,佢嘅見證就係似乎神每次都派不同嘅人供給佢所需。基督教裡,用宗教謀利嘅人有之,奉獻為宗教嘅人有之,單單信神供應嘅奇行種亦有之。

嗱天主教點收奉獻以前掠左幾多,佢又唔肯科水又唔同我宗教就完全唔關我事嘅。

咁如果你係要憑一啲你見過嘅事例,就認為教會都係有問題嘅,都係單純謀利嘅,我認為你有呢個權利,因為啲信徒失見證吖嘛。咁不過如果你要只憑你見過嘅,忽視其他例子,就歸納全部都係咁,就係你嘅唔高明囉,不過我都只能婉惜。聖經一早講世人都係罪人㗎啦,彼得都三次唔認主,大衛都行淫,最後都係叫佢地悔改啫,基督耶穌嘅福音都係話你知,罪嘅代價呢佢就代付啦,你肯認罪悔改就得㗎啦。你執意要混淆人嘅行為同神嘅福音,咁我就認為只係你自己嘅損失。

祝福呢,素來都係位份大嘅對位份少嘅做嘅,你又唔係信神,就唔好咁驕傲咁認為自己位份大得㗎,其實係幾冇禮貌㗎。基督徒講祝福呢,有時係口快,但其意係要指"願主祝福你",唔係法術,控制唔到神,係個"願"黎㗎啫。你又唔係真係有實質嘅福俾到人,又唔係有咩higher authority可以俾你appeal,照抄人念口簧咁就不倫不類啦,亦令我覺得只屬虛偽。你可以慳返你嘅祝福啦。不過講真,你單單用口嘅祝福就唔洗本嘅,都慳唔到幾多,耶穌就用佢嘅生命救我嘅生命啦,咁我理智少少咪揀個我認為可信啲㗎囉。
你既回應都好詳盡,我自問就唔會講太多。

你嚮往標準、倚靠,期望不變,身為教徒就以為可以在神的話語中得到穩定。我就咁睇,教義、釋經在不同時代都有改變,又點能夠話係不變?另一方面,當基督教開始在不信的國度開展傳教,亦往往會與當地的文化相結合,就係所謂既本地化、本色化。你身於呢個時代,其實是過去相對不穩定的教義發展過程的既得利益者,咁就梗係覺得唔駛改變啦。

科學家發現科學定律,其實都一路面對挑戰既,正如你提及有人嘗試反對熱力學第二定律一樣。推翻唔到既,只會更硬淨,更難推翻。咁科學家究竟係希望自己發現既科學定律,穩定晒無人去推翻改變?抑或希望、歡迎推翻,「獨孤求敗」呢?我就唔知佢地點諗,但我個人就比較鍾意後者既,因為咁就可以千錘百鍊出更好(或叫more generic)既理論/定律出黎。

至於你話教會吸金,但又有教會中人無私唔吸金,正正就顯示吸金與否,跟這個宗教(的教導)沒有必然關係。

所謂見到某些信徒失見證,相對來說那其實就是「非信徒眼中既見證」。係呀,我地係見到好鬼多人借呢個宗教搞淫亂既事,官司纏身,賠錢入獄。其實教徒與非教徒都有機會做這些事,係我就係唔抵得教徒站在道德高地指點他人,原來都係講一套做一套,所以或者因為咁,神職人員性侵先會咁矚目,咁多傳媒報道。基督教著重信徒見證,本網也收集離教見證。見證的本質本來就是以偏概全,基督教做得,為何離教者不能做?

最後,「祝福」二字雖然都從「示」部,有宗教意涵,但不是基督教獨有專用。追溯來源,應該是來自《黃帝內經素移精變氣論篇第十三》:「黃帝曰:余聞古之治病,惟其移精變氣,可祝由而已。」道教祝(咒)由之術燒符作藥,就是將福氣傳給病人,是祝福的真正來源。
支持鼓勵每位離教者 › 閹割神父 刻不容緩 ‹
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/6/27 06:22 編輯
英國嘅慕勒先生就係另一個例子啦,開5間孤兒院,佢就單單憑信心仰賴神嘅供應,幾大開銷都唔同出面講,從不慕捐,佢嘅見證就係似乎神每次都派不同嘅人供給佢所需。基督教裡,用宗教謀利嘅人有之,奉獻為宗教嘅人有之,單單信神供應嘅奇行種亦有之。
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/6/26 19:13



離教者之家個抽水, 都冇呼喚募捐架, 到時到候又有人科水夾錢咁。
嗱天主教點收奉獻以前掠左幾多,佢又唔肯科水又唔同我宗教就完全唔關我事嘅。
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/6/26 19:13


你唱到只係你去既教會就係自由奉獻,
其它教會(尤其係天主教)就係掠水, 搲銀咁。
離教者之家個抽水, 都冇呼喚慕捐架, 到時到候又有人科水夾錢咁。
beebeechan 發表於 2025/6/26 22:00



    你都有份,多謝善長人翁。
英國嘅慕勒先生就係另一個例子啦,開5間孤兒院,佢就單單憑信心仰賴神嘅供應,幾大開銷都唔同出面講,從不慕捐,佢嘅見證就係似乎神每次都派不同嘅人供給佢所需。基督教裡,用宗教謀利嘅人有之,奉獻為宗教嘅人有之,單單信神供應嘅奇行種亦有之。
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/6/26 19:13


新教既教會就好興利用呢啲案例, 在講道中好宣傳......(目的,...係咪就想教友多解荷包?? )

寶蓮寺都無好似東華三院咁每年都「歡樂滿寶蓮」嚟籌款架喎, 但寶蓮寺就愈嚟愈有米, 個壇起得幾高。
回覆 104# beebeechan

叫左你,賣贖罪券收啲銀科啲黎先講咩同一宗教。宜家水又唔肯科,銀又要搲,面又要人俾,食懵你?
總之你就關我叉事,你要你關我事就承認左我得救先,真係唔知點解仲有啲咁唔知醜嘅人。
回覆 106# beebeechan

新教既教會就好興利用呢啲案例, 在講道中好宣傳......(目的,...係咪就想教友多解荷包?? )


DH2,除左老作嘅動機冇野好批評啦吓話?

天主教就唔會用呢啲案例,只會同你講科左水就免煉獄。
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/6/26 22:50 編輯
叫左你,賣贖罪券收啲銀科啲黎先講咩同一宗教。宜家水又唔肯科,銀又要搲,面又要人俾 ...
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/6/26 22:27


你今日去咗一間「你暫時仲未有睇唔上眼」既教會, 只係向你洗腦: 天主教賣贖罪券建伯多祿聖堂!
離經背道啊!!!  達到抹黑目的就OK勒。
真正贖罪券既來龍去脈就唔會講。你個牧師都未必識, 佢都係被洗者!

如係為建伯多祿大殿, 咁贖罪券就應當在各歐洲國家, 各教區都全面推行喇。
點解, 當年推賣贖券..只係在三個德國教區:Mainz, Magdeburg and Halberstadt推銷??
嗰到啲人特別有米啊?
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/6/26 23:04 編輯

賣贖罪券係基督教中做成深遠影響。
如只係靠聽番嚟既三言兩語就以為知道真相.....
真係無聖靈帶領是殫旦引領...使你離開耶穌的教會, 唔好黐咁埋就真

B按:賣贖罪券掠水.....拎嚟唱既人就多, 肯去歷史堆中找真相的人少
我想發掘下歷史真相。贖罪券有冇futures炒?即係,我未犯就買定先,有discount.
有冇secondary market?買黎賣畀人。
有冇strike price? 即係咁,婚外情類,。拖手仔平過捉姦在床
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
可能對政府都有啟發意義。在這recession乜L都執笠時可以賣贖罪券開源,例如12月到期strike price係勾結外部勢力贖罪券一張1億2千萬,黃某被定罪就excise,仲唔駛嘥米飯養佢
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/6/27 00:01 編輯
我想發掘下歷史真相。贖罪券有冇futures炒?即係,我未犯就買定先,有discount.
.
沙文 發表於 2025/6/26 23:24


咁你去入新教喇, 即係你老婆個會。
佢地話一洗, 耶穌就赦晒你既罪 (包括埋洗後會犯既罪, 係future 嚟), 全部有耶穌找數。
咁一炮過赦曬又真係幾笨7,可見新教唔係幾識做生意。好似貴聖教會咁做埋交易所連佣同印花都賺埋先係經營之道。
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
咁一炮過赦曬又真係幾笨7,可見新教唔係幾識做生意。好似貴聖教會咁做埋交易所連佣同印花都賺埋先係經營之 ...
沙文 發表於 2025/6/27 00:06



    天主教既洗....係呀...係你孭咗一身咭數,找唔清.。。有個金主同你一筆還晒...係幾爽架。
可惜, 過頭同你找清咗條數, 呢頭你又係咁碌咭, 又有新數。

呢啲新數就唔包架喇。

新教就教: 無有怕, all you can spend...有我找數
必要時debt restructuring都可以幫到我嘅

我而家就暫時未衰到咁

Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
必要時都可以幫到我嘅
我而家就暫時未衰到咁
沙文 發表於 2025/6/27 05:28



    你咭卡數, 如果唔找數, 係咁利叠利, 叠十幾廿年....條數你識計喇
(通常, 七年就一個開)

早啲還好呀, 唔好拖數喔
你有冇計錯呀? 廿幾厘息要七年先至一個開?
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
本帖最後由 jimmychauck 於 2025/6/27 07:14 編輯

回覆 102# 抽刀斷水

就咁睇,教義、釋經在不同時代都有改變,又點能夠話係不變?


呢啲野都好多次講過㗎啦,我話你變嘅,唔係學說嘅變,係meta學說嘅變,比如到底類比睇同定不同,你每每都拎出黎混淆。
side track埋啦,今次"教義"就你提出嘅,咁麻煩你定義吓咩係"教義"啦。
教義、釋經,有唔同,我認同呀,我唔認同嘅係有唔同到咩地步,點樣令到呢個"宗教"唔再係想同佢最初比較黎相同嘅"宗教"。我不嬲都問你,點樣影響信仰核心?how? to what extend?你以前就推說話果啲係其他離教者講嘅,你唔知人地點諗,OK fine,咁宜家你就話"(抽刀)我就咁睇"啦,咁你又解唔解釋到"如何""到咩程度"不同?
呢個話題,其實十年前早講過啦

科學定理不是真理,是隨時歡迎被推翻,然而,在應用層面上,根據科學定理構作的科技世界,每天為六十億人所用。那未,「根據聖經」解出的「因信稱義」、「神愛世人」等,在應用層面上,情況若何?
...
創世以來,神是逐步啟示自己的,對亞當為創造主,向摩西宣告名字、頒佈律法,後又藉眾先知逐步預言救世的彌賽亞
...
神逐步啟示自己,但所啟示的,不會和之前的衝突
...
正如牛頓力學、湯姆生原子模型、以太論等被推翻,只是被更準確的所替代。本來就與真實相差不遠,足以描述大部份的世界。
jimmychauck 發表於 2011/9/29 22:51

唔好話基督教,猶太教都係咁啦,塞特生左以挪士之後人先求告神的名,亞伯拉罕都唔知神叫"我是",約書亞唔知道將來彌賽亞要來,但從來冇人話過信果個神係唔同左係第二個㗎,一路都係叫"亞伯拉罕的神""祖宗的神""曾帶我們出埃及的神",從來啲人都係認為自己同先祖跟嘅係同一個神㗎。原則好清楚㗎,逐步啟示,所啟示的不會和之前的衝突。耶穌來都唔係要癈掉律法,係要成全律法。

Gal 1:6  我希奇你們這麼快離開那藉著基督之恩召你們的,去從別的福音。
Gal 1:7  那並不是福音,不過有些人攪擾你們,要把基督的福音更改了。
Gal 1:8  但無論是我們,是天上來的使者,若傳福音給你們,與我們所傳給你們的不同,他就應當被咒詛。

保羅喺加拉太書講得好清楚㗎,別的福音係唔會接受㗎,"與我們所傳給你們的不同","不同"原文G3844,係above, against, among, at, before, by, contrary to,日文翻譯對中國人易明啲,私逹が宣べ伝えた福音に反すること,我們宣傳的福音"反"的事物。

原則好清楚㗎,逐步啟示,所啟示的不會和之前的衝突

Dan 12:4  但以理啊,你要隱藏這話,封閉這書,直到末時。必有多人來往奔跑(或作:切心研究),知識就必增長。」

但以理都講都好清楚㗎,知識係會增長㗎嘛。

不嬲都話人唔會完全認識神㗎,知識增長而同之前嘅唔衝突,"教義"發展我睇唔出問題喺邊喎。

所以三位一體,係一個發展出黎嘅"教義",但係佢唔否定"獨一"㗎。
天主教嘅"教義"改變及衝突就無謂同我討論啦,對象唔啱,我相信我講得出嘅應該多過你。

咁但係meta嘅方法係唔應該變㗎,庇哩亞人天天考查聖經,要曉得這道是與不是,第一要緊的,該知道經上所有的預言沒有可隨私意解說的。福音"教義"嘅發展都唔可以同之前嘅野衝突,咁原則呢家野點可以一時一樣呢?思考果陣認真啲,我都相信係好事吖。
都係果句,你話一時一樣如水乜乜係自己為傲嘅,世俗嘅標準都不如。

呀咁就算有改變又點?你自己話上巴士都唔洗明巴士點運作,總之應用到就得啦,咁教義萬變了,但「因信稱義」、「神愛世人」等等喺應用上又有咩分別呢?

咁不過,你講到教義、釋經有唔同,any肥我就唔aware有大到好重要嘅不同,問埋gemini我都睇唔到,咁可能我孤陋寡聞啦,你覺得有重大問題就不妨舉出黎,因為證有不證無嘛,十度門的故事吖嘛。

一陣appendix post埋gemini嘅回答。

我諗係我講得唔好,令你誤解左關於"熱力學第二定律"嘅事。Henry Morris同支持進化論者都冇反對"熱力學第二定律",只係有人試圖提出假說"也許很久以前,熱力學第二定律並不存在"去駁斥以熱力學第二定律反對進化論嘅論點,Henry Morris提出"咁咪即係有創世嘅過程"。成件事反映,如果打破"科學定律不變"呢個假設,係會有好多空間俾宗教入。
你所講嘅"科學定理推翻過程"我認同,我亦上面十年前講過。

關於吸金同見證嘅問題,我似乎睇到唔知係咪你見到信徒作見證時嘅內容及口吻,俾左一個有偏差嘅概念俾你。

咁當然首先,你話
至於你話教會吸金,但又有教會中人無私唔吸金,正正就顯示吸金與否,跟這個宗教(的教導)沒有必然關係。

單用有冇就可以下結論冇關係,成件事數學上根本就唔成立。你要establish冇correlation,最低限度要用啲stat,跟住先講到"有or冇correlation"呢個結論有幾多% confidence。呢個係基本嘅統計學。
咁當然你認為自己見得夠多啦,唔洗咁嚴謹嘅數學啦,成件事對我黎講就雖無可厚非,薄非就難免㗎啦,我明白可以咁下結論乃人之常情,不過總之就唔算嚴謹。
見證係宣傳所以一定係揀某啲去講,話以偏概全,喺某個向導係啱嘅。但呢個就忽略左見證其實係見證緊乜,所以我亦話,唔知係咪你見到信徒作見證時嘅內容及口吻,俾左一個有偏差嘅概念俾你。如果你睇返見證喺新約裡面點用呢,耶穌就同低加波里被鬼附果個人咁講,「你回家去,到你的親屬那裡,將主為你所做的是何等大的事,是怎樣憐憫你,都告訴他們。」見證,係見證神嘅作為,就唔係見證人自己點樣改變。可能一般教會有唔少所謂見證,信徒係描述自己信左耶穌後有咩改變,前廿年有唔少話自己信左耶穌後定性左發奮圖強讀成書social economic status有改善,我唔知係咪近呢一類嘅見證令你覺得"見證"都係關於人嘅行為改變,亦都有好多happy ending 好似好晒命嘅故事。但我希望你明白嘅係"soli deo gloria"榮耀單單歸神,見證目的應該係話你知"這是神的作為""主為你(作見證者)所做的是何等大的事"。
行為、吸金與否跟這個宗教的教導有關係嗎?其實個個都識叫其他人去做好人㗎,個個都知應該做好人㗎。但不嬲都話,立志為善由得我,只是行出來由不得我。
基督教教導乜野?基督教冇教你邊種方法或法術可以令信徒一定有"好行為",基督教乃是清楚說明"人靠自己必跌倒滅亡",始祖亞當都抵賴不認罪,亞伯拉罕信心都唔係時時爆棚,以撒都貪食,雅各都詭詐,支派之祖猶大都淫亂,大衛都犯姦淫,所羅門王都臨老入花叢,聖經裡面好多所謂嘅偉人,聖經都話俾你知佢地有陰暗嘅一面,並無隠暪。整個舊約以色列人嘅歷史就係話你知人點折墮法,明明見住啲雲柱火柱嘅天降異象,都時時可以當神死左咁去拜偶像。士師記每次揾士師救完你,一代人之後又墮落去拜外邦神。就如經上所記:沒有義人,連一個也沒有。
當唔只舊約,新約都有信徒欺咁聖靈,教會書信都批評唔少人結黨營私,連耶穌喺啟示錄異象中出現,都批評兩間教會中有人吃祭偶像之物,行姦淫的事。
基督教教導乜野?你信神的兒子,他幫助你脫離罪和死的轄制。
呢個並唔係話,你之後再唔會犯罪,但係神的兒子擔當你嘅罪,並叫你跟隨佢在地上得生命,並且得的更豐盛。
就真係冇話邊位信徒從此都不犯罪,聖經應許你嘅只有"賜生命聖靈的律,在基督耶穌裡釋放了我,使我脫離罪和死的律了。","你們若常在我裡面,我的話也常在你們裡面,凡你們所願意的,祈求,就給你們成就。你們多結果子,我父就因此得榮耀,你們也就是我的門徒了。"
靠主時得勝,不靠主靠自己時就落敗,好似摩西舉手禱告時以色列人先佔上風咁。
所以神在我身上作何等大的事?我以前好驚死,搭啲舊小小嘅電梯都滿腦子只能諗條纜斷左跌落去會點死,信耶穌後知道就算係死,神都接自己去。這驚人的平安是神賜的,從信左耶穌之後我再冇驚過死了。這是出乎神所賜的平安,並不是世上的平安。
慕勒則作見證,神賜給他每日所需的。
見證可以牽涉自己的情況好轉,好似有啲屬地嘅益處強處咁,但"見證"係想話你知,主為我所做的是何等大的事。
保羅見證乜?我現在被澆奠,我離世的時候到了。那美好的仗我已經打過了,當跑的路我已經跑盡了,所信的道我已經守住了。從此以後,有公義的冠冕為我存留,不但賜給我,也賜給凡愛慕他顯現的人。主必救我脫離諸般的兇惡,也必救我進他的天國。願榮耀歸給他,直到永永遠遠。阿們。死緊㗎啦,不過唔驚,mission accomplished,soli deo gloria。就唔係好野先有見證,衰野一樣有見證。
咁啲人搞淫亂既事,官司纏身,賠錢入獄係咩事?無他,只係繼續證明舊約嘅教導俾你睇,人天生有罪性,沒有義人,連一個也沒有。

咁我希望你清楚見證係見證乜,基督教話神喜悅好行為,但冇話過冇足夠嘅好行為唔得救,或者衰行為多就唔得救,又真係冇寫過包單冇信徒會跌倒,並且就係因為知道人靠唔到好行為去稱義,神就預備埋福音,係咁啫。

如果你因為見到啲差嘅見證,明白就算信左耶穌都可能對好行為冇必然嘅影響,咁就只get左呢一半,將另一半神所賜的平安,救人脫離罪和死的律都唔要了,咁我就為你呢個判斷可惜。
如果你根本都唔相信有啲咁嘅野,認為我上面講嘅全部只係無稽之談,咁我都知信耶穌係靠信嘅,唔係靠證明嘅,你唔信我嘅見證,我講多都無謂。

祝福黎講呢,按我對你嘅認識,你非道非佛,就算人地真係有福氣傳到俾病人我都認為唔關你事。我就期望係議事論事㗎啫,門面行貨說話呢,大家可免則免啦,基本嘅網絡禮儀已經好夠。


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Appendix:

how has protestant doctrines changed over the past 500 years?

Protestant doctrines have undergone significant evolution over the past 500 years, moving from an initial emphasis on core Reformation principles to a diverse landscape of theological interpretations and practices. While the fundamental tenets remain important, various movements and external influences have shaped their application and understanding.

Here are some key areas of change:

I. Core Reformation Doctrines and Their Evolution:

Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone): This principle, emphasizing the Bible as the sole authoritative source for faith and practice, remains central. However, its interpretation has diversified.

Early Reformation: A strong reaction against the perceived authority of Catholic tradition and papal decrees. Luther's translation of the Bible into the vernacular was crucial for wider access and individual interpretation.

Later Developments: Debates have emerged regarding the role of historical and cultural context in biblical interpretation, the influence of reason and tradition in understanding scripture (especially in Anglicanism with its "three-legged stool" of Scripture, tradition, and reason), and the varied approaches to biblical literalism (leading to the rise of fundamentalism).

Sola Fide (Faith Alone) and Sola Gratia (Grace Alone): These doctrines assert that salvation is a gift of God's grace received through faith in Jesus Christ, not by works or merit.

Early Reformation: A direct challenge to the Catholic practice of indulgences and the emphasis on good works for salvation.

Modern Interpretations: While still foundational, surveys show that many Protestants today, particularly in Western Europe and even a significant portion in the US, believe that salvation involves a combination of faith and good works, a position traditionally associated with Catholicism. This suggests a softening of the strict "faith alone" understanding in some quarters.

Solus Christus (Christ Alone): Christ is the sole mediator between God and humanity.

Early Reformation: Rejection of the mediation of saints and the priesthood as necessary for accessing God.

Continued Emphasis: This remains a strong tenet, though discussions around the "priesthood of all believers" have led to diverse views on clergy roles and the accessibility of spiritual authority within different denominations.

Soli Deo Gloria (Glory to God Alone): All glory belongs to God.

Early Reformation: A focus on glorifying God in all aspects of life, including work and daily activities. This contributed to the idea of the "Protestant work ethic."

Contemporary Relevance: Continues to be a guiding principle, influencing various aspects of worship, mission, and social engagement.

II. Major Doctrinal Shifts and Movements:

Confessionalization (16th-17th centuries): After the initial Reformation, distinct confessional identities emerged (Lutheran, Reformed, Anglican, etc.), with detailed confessions and catechisms solidifying their specific theological positions. This led to internal debates and sometimes conflict between Protestant groups.


Rationalism and Enlightenment (17th-18th centuries): The rise of scientific inquiry, philosophical perspectives like Enlightenment rationalism, and historical criticism challenged traditional religious authority and literal biblical interpretations. This led to:

Liberal Theology: Attempts to reconcile Christian faith with modern thought, often reinterpreting miracles, biblical narratives, and traditional doctrines in light of reason and scientific understanding.

Pietism and Great Awakenings (17th-19th centuries): As a reaction to perceived rationalism and spiritual lukewarmness, these movements emphasized personal conversion, emotional experience, and practical piety, leading to a focus on individual spiritual experience and moral reform.

Modernism, Fundamentalism, and Neo-Orthodoxy (20th Century):

Modernism: Continued efforts to adapt Christian theology to modern intellectual trends, often leading to more liberal interpretations of doctrine.

Fundamentalism: A reaction against modernism, reaffirming the literal truth of the Bible, core doctrines (like the virgin birth, atonement, resurrection), and often emphasizing a clear separation from secular culture.

Neo-Orthodoxy (e.g., Karl Barth): A theological movement that emerged in the mid-20th century, reasserting the transcendence of God and the unique authority of revelation, often in response to the perceived weaknesses of liberal theology and the horrors of world wars.

Evangelicalism (20th-21st centuries): A broad movement encompassing various denominations, characterized by an emphasis on personal conversion, the authority of the Bible, evangelism, and social action. It often draws from fundamentalist roots but is generally broader and more engaged with culture.

Pentecostalism and Charismatic Movements (20th-21st centuries): These movements emphasize the experience of the Holy Spirit, including gifts like speaking in tongues, divine healing, and prophecy. They have grown explosively, particularly in the Global South, shifting the geographical and demographic center of Protestantism.

Ecumenism: A movement towards greater unity and cooperation among different Christian traditions, including Protestants and Catholics. While doctrinal differences remain, there has been an increased willingness for dialogue and collaboration.

Social Justice and Engagement: Many Protestant denominations have increasingly focused on social justice issues, engaging in activism related to poverty, civil rights, environmentalism, and human rights. This reflects a shift from a purely individualistic focus on salvation to a broader concern for the transformation of society.

Diversity and Pluralism: Protestantism today is incredibly diverse, with thousands of denominations and independent churches. This diversity reflects a wide range of theological interpretations, worship styles, and cultural expressions.


In summary, while the foundational "solas" of the Reformation remain influential, Protestant doctrines have been continuously shaped by internal theological debates, intellectual movements, social changes, and global expansion. This has led to both a reaffirmation of core beliefs and a significant diversification and reinterpretation of those beliefs across a vast spectrum of Protestant traditions.


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