基督教, 戒毒所, 朋友

中国人

我離教之後，有一段時間，我對基督教充滿了怨恨。那時候我經常上論壇咒罵基督教。但靜下心來一想，基督教對人類也並非全無貢獻。不知各位朋友有沒有聽說過呂代豪，他原本是一個黑社會打手，在監獄中信教後，他成了一個好人。還有一個牧師在澳門開了一家戒毒所，從這家戒毒所裡出來的人，有50.1%都沒再复吸。因此，基督教雖作惡多端，但也算是作了些好事吧。

1/65,000,000。
題外話，以上一大串的分母數字，我們華人還要從頭，個、十、百千、萬，一個一個的算，真是浪費時間。話說，三位撇節法是由西歐語言產生的，例如我們華人說一萬﹝1，0000﹞，英文說ten thounsands﹝10，000，十個千﹞以上的分母數字，如果改用四位撇節法，1/6500,0000，那就順應了我們華人的習慣用法，簡單明瞭多了。

prussianz

原帖由 口琴王 於 2008-4-29 16:42 發表
我想问一个问题很久了。。。
什么是大秦景教？

大秦 = Roman Empire = 羅馬帝國，

景教 = 基督教

佛 [人它] 保  [人右] 你，

阿彌  [人它] 佛

沙文

原帖由 口琴王 於 2008-4-29 00:42 發表
我想问一个问题很久了。。。
什么是大秦景教？

若然書太厚無暇讀，去西安碑林參觀一下也可以。

秀雲

原帖由 口琴王 於 2008-4-29 16:42 發表
我想问一个问题很久了。。。
什么是大秦景教？

给你推荐一本书--------《道与言—华夏文化与基督文化相遇》

口琴王

我想问一个问题很久了。。。
什么是大秦景教？

沙文

報告報告！我今發現大秦景教對國家民族社會健康又一鉅大貢獻：

http://exchristian.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=1733&extra=page%3D1&page=1

Nomad

However, that being said.
The so high frequency of wars prompted by the church is essentially indisplaceable in their own times - if they relied on trade induced research rather than war, they'll still be crawlling on the ground biting mud for food as cutting edge technology.
It's the crazy determination to kill everyone who stands in the way to victory that made experimental facts (which translates into more effectient killing thus higher survival rate in its vigorous sense) suppresses utterly restricting cultural norms like "we shall burn whoever that says the sun sits in the center", "we shall nail whoever proposes a world without god's interference (Newtonian physics)".

And of course, that's because, thanks to the church which in turn creates this environment, whoever has the guts to adapt the science will have whoever doesn't have the guts to adapt the science crumbled to ground like a piece of crap.

With a trade dorminated (instead of war dorminated) world like this, people are utterly more unlikely to adapt science because it's no longer linked to the immediate survival of the state, thus so much more easily successful are things like fundamentalist or fa-lun-kung or the like. By the way, when will HK people learn that the earth is NOT 6000-year-old and that quantum mechanics DOES have something to do with your life? Maybe never.

It's really only because we finally arrived to the wonderful age when pressing a button can cause the "Christians' long waited ammegeddon" thus we struggle to keep our mouth shut about war so that the fundamentalists can live for another day to speak bull crap.

prussianz

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-4-20 05:36 發表
>It makes people live better at both side.

Seriously, it doesn't... at least, not "necessarily"

prussianz

原帖由 逆源 於 2008-4-24 20:09 發表
很可憐的答案，更加可憐的貢獻。

first ThANKs
最可憐的是： ::::: ，因為基督教 因此 直接////間接 被 消滅了 的 [人人人] 生，,;--^)


cheers ThANK ye

逆源

很可憐的答案，更加可憐的貢獻。

Nomad

>It makes people live better at both side.

Seriously, it doesn't... at least, not "necessarily"

dye

I tend to think of it this way.

War also has its advantage: It encourage research.  It re-distribute wealth and give oportunity to the talented.

Colonization has its advantage:  It increase trade.  It makes people live better at both side.  It helps to spread technology, science and idea

German WWII aggression also has advantage:  It increase GDP, bringing the world out of its economic depression.

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There is no point in talking about a choice alone.  We need to think o alernative.

Without war, we can still reserve part of government budget for research.
Without war, we can still have socialist movement and make th upward flow for the poor possible.

Without colonization, we can still have WTO and continue the trade.

Without WWII, we can still increase the spending of the government to invest in the future to bring everyone out of depression.
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Without Christianity, will Budhism do the job too?  What about Confucius?  Or a bit of Humanism?  Or just secular technique?

What is the costing of Christianity compare to other options?

weakest

還以為讀哲學的人特別愛抽煙...在大學的吸煙區, 通常只看見哲學學生/prof. 的身影...

Nomad

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-4-19 06:32 發表


>>>>>>>>> (不...認真的)
meanst////mean thou : :::::

.1. ,,,,,不 認真的'''' ?
.2. ,,,,,不! 認真的'''' ?

2。

prussianz

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-4-19 06:20 發表


想想看,不如改用哲學戒毒吧
大學當年有這樣一個有毒癮的朋友,讀過哲學之後不單戒毒,還上了哈佛法律學院哩！(不...認真的)

>>>>>>>>> (不...認真的)
meanst////mean thou : :::::

.1. ,,,,,不 認真的'''' ?
.2. ,,,,,不! 認真的'''' ?

Nomad

原帖由 秀雲 於 2008-4-17 20:55 發表


我贊同這位朋友的說法。從我這幾年的教會經歷來看，基督教采用的教育方式更多是“壓制”而非正視和疏導。也許能好上一陣子，但誰保證在某些因緣下會爆發呢？

黑社會老大的悔改，吸毒人戒毒......原因太複雜了。宗教只是其 ...

想想看,不如改用哲學戒毒吧
大學當年有這樣一個有毒癮的朋友,讀過哲學之後不單戒毒,還上了哈佛法律學院哩！(不...認真的)

prussianz

原帖由 devil666 於 2008-4-18 17:28 發表

其實生存就好似地獄

所以地獄就好似生存

good point , outstanding point , thou////u////you hast////have pointed it out , ,

cheers ThANK ye , thy////ur////your bro , the dare devil 999 ,

by the way , ,,,,,bro'''' in swedish = english ,,,,,bridge'''' ,;--^)

devil666

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-4-18 02:49 發表




hi , My Dear Devil , longest time n'o////no c////see ,;--^)

howdy = how do you do
@ hell ?

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>>>>>>>>> 清末洋教士是 ...

其實生存就好似地獄

所以地獄就好似生存

prussianz

原帖由 秀雲 於 2008-4-17 20:55 發表


我贊同這位朋友的說法。從我這幾年的教會經歷來看，基督教采用的教育方式更多是“壓制”而非正視和疏導。也許能好上一陣子，但誰保證在某些因緣下會爆發呢？

黑社會老大的悔改，吸毒人戒毒......原因太複雜了。宗教只是其 ...

>>>> 黑社會老大的悔改，吸毒人戒毒......原因太複雜了。宗教只是其一，
>>>> 最後被基督教拿出來作為標靶宣傳利用。