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beebeechan

侵华日军嘅罪行大家都知道，但系大家可能唔知，原来日军都识得做慈善，收买人心架：

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Guest from 128.199.231.x 發表於 2016/7/8 06:37

看似你都明白不要靠一兩幅相來做判斷。好易便「被收買」。


不過，　反基們貼得最多既就係呢幅：

一幅相就話天主教支持納綷黨。
豬一樣的反基早就「被收買」左哩。

抽刀斷水

一幅相就話天主教支持納綷黨。
豬一樣的反基早就「被收賣」左哩。
beebeechan 發表於 2016/7/8 08:11

    你去勸勸貴教首領不要亂道歉先啦，無做過就千祈咪認。
http://tech.mit.edu/V118/N13/bvatican.13w.html

beebeechan

你去勸勸貴教首領不要亂道歉先啦，無做過就千祈咪認。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2016/7/8 10:37

經驗告訴我，　這類報導都多會被扭曲，　記者從教宗一大段話中，　抽出合他心意的字眼，　
而不理會全文。
我建議你先去讀讀原文（如果你英文尚好的話。。。。。）

由你自己判斷，不要輕易就給人收買了。

抽刀斷水

教宗發表既原文唔係拉丁文咩？

beebeechan

你去勸勸貴教首領不要亂道歉先啦，無做過就千祈咪認。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2016/7/8 10:37

點解二戰時，戰後的大報章，　都是刊登了向當時教宗道謝的報導呢？

beebeechan

教宗發表既原文唔係拉丁文咩？
抽刀斷水 發表於 2016/7/8 11:06

梵蒂岡有官方英文譯本既
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curi ... 31998_shoah_en.html


你讀晒全文（如你有耐性慢慢讀的話），你看看這是否一篇道歉聲明。

由你自己來判斷，不要輕易就給人「收買」了。

翻江倒海

回覆 7# beebeechan

我睇过以前D贴，好多到呢度嘅基督徒都俾沙文大师用“嬉笑怒骂”神功整走左。但你就唔同，沙文大师嘅神功吓唔倒你。而且仲俾你打番转头舔。沙文大师真系千年道行一朝丧。

beebeechan

回覆  beebeechan

我睇过以前D贴，好多到呢度嘅基督徒都俾沙文大师用“嬉笑怒骂”神功整走左。但你就唔同 ...
翻江倒海 發表於 2016/7/8 12:23

我同佢一樣： short short 地囉
佢short 我都 short

抽刀斷水

回覆 7# beebeechan


    你的連結跟報紙都有引述以下一段：

We deeply regret the errors and failures of those sons and daughters of the Church. We make our own what is said in the Second Vatican Council's Declaration Nostra Aetate, which unequivocally affirms: "The Church ... mindful of her common patrimony with the Jews, and motivated by the Gospel's spiritual love and by no political considerations, deplores the hatred, persecutions and displays of anti-Semitism directed against the Jews at any time and from any source".

出絕招吧！說是「翻譯問題」吧！

beebeechan

回覆  beebeechan


    你的連結跟報紙都有引述以下一段：



出絕招吧！說是「翻譯問題」吧！ ...
抽刀斷水 發表於 2016/7/8 15:01

報導的剪裁工夫：（只引述教宗認為做得未夠好的字句）
"We deeply regret the errors and failure of those sons and daughters of the church," the Vatican paper said. "We cannot know how many Christians in countries occupied or ruled by the Nazi powers or their allies were horrified at the disappearance of their Jewish neighbors and yet were not strong enough to raise their voices in protest."


來自原文中的第17段。
報導者卻省去17段中的其它中心：

反猶太人不是由教會發起，天主教會，新教教會也是第三帝國逼害受害者之一
Its anti-Semitism had its roots outside of Christianity and, in pursuing its aims, it did not hesitate to oppose the Church and persecute her members also.


當時有不少基督徒冒著危險對猶太人給予緩助
Many did, but others did not. Those who did help to save Jewish lives as much as was in their power, even to the point of placing their own lives in danger, must not be forgotten. During and after the war, Jewish communities and Jewish leaders expressed their thanks for all that had been done for them, including what Pope Pius XII did personally or through his representatives to save hundreds of thousands of Jewish lives.(16) Many Catholic bishops, priests, religious and laity have been honoured for this reason by the State of Israel.


猶如迷你倉大火，消防員殉職了，消防處長出來說話，說滅火指揮，裝備，策略要檢討，可以做得更好，是否當日消防員無盡力救火？任由火在燒？

beebeechan

回覆  beebeechan

我睇过以前D贴，好多到呢度嘅基督徒都俾沙文大师用“嬉笑怒骂”神功整走左。但你就唔同，沙文大师嘅神功吓唔倒你。而且仲俾你打番转头舔。沙文大师真系千年道行一朝丧。

翻江倒海 發表於 2016/7/8 12:23

觀眾眼光，　果然是雪亮的。

沙文

回覆  beebeechan

我睇过以前D贴，好多到呢度嘅基督徒都俾沙文大师用“嬉笑怒骂”神功整走左。但你就唔同 ...
翻江倒海 發表於 2016/7/7 20:23

沙文大師幼讀聖賢書莊敬自強不苟言笑剛毅木訥, 根本就唔識甚麽“嬉笑怒骂”神功,
邊鬼度用過“嬉笑怒骂”神功呢? 唔該您舉例說明之?

beebeechan

沙文大師幼讀聖賢書莊敬自強不苟言笑剛毅木訥, 根本就唔識甚麽“嬉笑怒骂”神功,
邊鬼度用過“嬉笑怒骂” ...
沙文 2016/7/9 01:59 提交

咁係欺小老罵囉

沙文

都冇, 沙文大師向來都老吾老以及人之老幼吾幼以及人之幼

好似呢一帖, 我都認為當年有咁善心嘅皇軍, 我地真係唔應該一竹篙打一船人, 話皇軍係衰嘅。
嘅然教宗都幫人洗過幾次腳, 我地都唔能夠話夭主教衰啦

beebeechan

都冇, 沙文大師向來都老吾老以及人之老
沙文 2016/7/9 02:32 提交

你上廁大便塞時就係咁勒

beebeechan

好似呢一帖, 我都認為當年有咁善心嘅皇軍, 我地真係唔應該一竹篙打一船人, 話皇軍係衰嘅

沙文 發表於 2016/7/9 02:32

不過，你就想用一個「性侵臭彈」，炸死成個天主教會既神父囉

沙文

唔係呀, 我一見皇軍咁善心嘅歷史鐵証, 已经明白到天主教會既神父其實同皇軍係一樣嘅

beebeechan

唔係呀, 我一見皇軍咁善心嘅歷史鐵証, 已经明白到天主教會既神父其實同皇軍係一樣嘅 ...
沙文 發表於 2016/7/9 05:14

一樣係人丫嘛

沙文

回覆 19# beebeechan
係咯, 皇軍同神父嘅人性都係一樣