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回覆 99# Guest from 111.252.96.x

扶你阿麼抄花蟹,扶你阿麼撲撲框,扶你阿麼老木地,扶你阿麼生雞仔 。
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/1 21:11 編輯
住在胡同裡的人, 在胡同長大的孩子, 卻不會迷路.
外來遊客, 不去熟識胡同, 局外人....又不懂問路, 問了路也不信人言, 當然會摸錯路

當人教你點行時, 你只懂:
亳無根據,有什麼值得去信?

你真夠蠢,我未見過有人好似你咁蠢

幼稚的一味亂吹,越吹越大

hellboy 發表於 2012/4/30 22:32 [url=redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=95056&ptid=9723][/url]



而自己又實在摸不到路,
beebeechan 發表於 2012/4/30 23:41


朋友,我說你蠢,是指你連我說如果世界有神是什麼樣,和你信的神是什麼樣都分不清楚,並不是說你信的道有幾蠢。而說你幼稚地一味亂吹,是指你把耶和華無限上綱上線,有幾大誇幾大,這些都不是什麼道理,只是純粹你個人的幻想或者胡思亂想,既亳無根據,亦亳無道理可言,亦都不會是什麼真道。因為你是留在死胡同裏的人,你對於外面的世界,永遠只有幻想,永遠沒有探索,如果去到外面,根本是注定必定會迷路,因為你連嘗試去找出路的方法也不懂,你亳無經驗,你說我有什麼可能信你那一套?
回覆 101# Guest from 111.252.96.x

扶你阿麼抄花蟹,扶你阿麼撲撲框,扶你阿麼老木地,扶你阿麼生雞仔 。
回覆 96# beebeechan

咁唔該你幫我妖到佢開花
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/2 18:19 編輯
妖到你結果才說
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/1 22:14


即喺你有性病啦,你同那個神棍好好享受啦。
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/2 18:18 編輯
是那個娘教你住在胡同的人便等同不認識胡同外的世界?

唔怕人口臭, 只怕人無腦. ...
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/1 22:28


是你那個爹教你那些從來不會去外面走走的死胡同人也會認識外面的世界?何況我都做過死胡同裏的人,而且還同你一樣,點會唔知死胡同裏的世界和外面的世界有幾大分別?
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/2 22:12 編輯
一樣米養百樣人,
一教內也有百樣人.

你唔好同我比, 差好遠!

有人入寶山也可以空手回的. ...
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/2 21:27


難為你手籃住督屎都可以當寶,其實屎到底點樣好食法?我真喺唔想知。不過我真喺諗極都諗唔明,天主教到底有乜野吸引你,可以令你完全盲目地獻出你的生命?
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/2 22:16 編輯
就是因為你唔想知, 知得少, 所以你屎與寶也不懂分,
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/2 22:10


不過我真喺諗極都諗唔明,天主教到底有乜野吸引你,可以令你完全盲目地獻出你的生命?我唔介意聽你講吓,我在天主教除了找到那話兒之外就什麼也找不到。我身邊那些敬虔的天主教朋友,全部都黑字當頭,首先是慕道班導師絕症慘死,然後是有人父母雙亡,然後是精神病……
就是因為你唔想知, 知得少, 所以你屎與寶也不懂分,


正如紅酒有甚麼好飲﹖
事實是世上有不少人欣賞紅酒 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/2 22:10



紅酒當然好飲,但屎到底有什麼好食?我真喺唔明,唔該你話比我知啦。會唔會喺因為你當左屎喺金梅?
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/2 22:24 編輯

仲有,條友話想世界上面充滿戰爭和災難,喺好人都求世界和平,少點天災,請問如此大魔頭,如何值得我跟隨?
你有好的懷疑精神, 卻無好的探索精神.
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/2 22:56


點解你唔爽快地答我天主教到底有乜野吸引你,可以令你完全盲目地獻出你的生命?喺咪你自己根本就無諗過?
乜信天主就唔使死? 無病無痛架?

調番轉頭, 你唔信天主, 就包無當黑, 父母不會亡, 無病無痛耶? ...
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/2 22:58



老實講, 我自從唔信耶和華那隻大魔頭,並且公開地反佢之後,好似真喺好運左好多。
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/3 18:45 編輯
你唔係去問點解屎都好食.
你應當去問擺在面前的是紅酒, 或是一篤屎.

唔一定係人把屎當了紅酒,
也可以是 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/2 23:31


唔該你唔好講廢話啦,呢度除左你會將屎當成紅酒,紅酒當成屎之外仲有其他人咩?如果你條氣唔順,你咪解釋比我聽點解屎唔喺屎,或者屎點樣好食法囉,至於屎點解喺屎,我都解釋左啦,
第一、耶穌呢督屎叫你害死阿爸阿媽;
第二、耶穌呢督屎話要製造戰爭殺人;
第三、耶穌叫信徒殺晒啲異教徒;而以前的信徒真喺有咁做
第四、啟示錄講耶穌要製造各種各樣大災難;
第五、耶穌叫你拋棄自己家人,甚至不理父母生養死葬;
第六、耶穌自稱明亮晨星,而以賽亞書證明明亮晨星即是魔鬼;
第七、耶穌極度憎恨這個世界;
第八、耶和華教你如果你個仔頑劣一點便要拉他去公審,甚至用石頭砸死佢;
第九、耶和華歧視殘疾人士(利未記21:16-23);
第十、耶和華在撒母耳記下歷代志上露餡,原來牠就是撒旦……

脆脆地呢到十個points,當然如果要數下去,一定唔止呢個數,你有無本事反駁一兩個?我倒好奇你夠不夠膽說諸如「叫你害死自己父母都喺為你好,因為佢地唔信耶穌」這類禽獸不如的說話。
聖經中的「屎」:

出谷紀 21:17
凡咒罵父親或母親的,應受死刑。
21:2
假使你買了一個希伯來人作奴隸, ...
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/3 22:33


你真喺好**麻煩,我提出你證據你唔去研究唔去反駁亦都唔比答案我更加唔比解釋,偏偏又去開新題目帶我去遊花園,鑊鑊都避重新輕,簡直卑鄙,咁樣嘅討論有意思咩?你唔喺幼稚到以你咁唔誠懇咁虛偽嘅討論態度可以說服到我嗎?你當我細佬仔呀?我認真當你朋友咁同你傾,而你就同我馬夫了事,扶你阿麼,你估去說服一個人可以蒙混過關嘅咩?痴**線,貼啲經文出嚟野都唔講多句,扶你阿麼,好,你鍾意貼經文,我就同你鬥貼!
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/4 19:13 編輯

BIBLICAL Injustice


Genesis


"In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children. ... Thy husband ... shall rule over thee."
God punishes Eve, and all women after her, with the pains of childbirth and subjection to men. 3:16

God likes Abel's dead animals better than Cain's fruits and vegetables. Why? Well, no reason is given, but it probably has something to do with the amount of pain, blood, and gore involved. 4:3-5

Lamech kills a man and claims that since Cain's murderer would be punished sevenfold, whoever murders him will be punished seventy-seven fold. That sounds fair. 4:23-24

"I will destroy ... both man and beast."
God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17

"Every living substance that I have made will I destroy."
God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4

"All flesh died that moved upon the earth."
God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23

"Into your hand are they (the animals) delivered." God gave the animals to humans, and they can do whatever they please with them. This verse has been used by bible believers to justify all kinds of cruelty to animals and environmental destruction. 9:2

"Noah ... drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent."
The "just and righteous" Noah (6:9, 7:1) plants a vineyard, gets drunk, and lies around naked in his tent. His son, Ham, happens to see his father in this condition. When Noah sobers up and hears "what his young son had done unto him" (what did he do besides look at him?), he curses not Ham, who "saw the nakedness of his father," but Ham's son, Canaan. "A servant of servants shall he [Canaan] be unto his brethren." This is a typical case of biblical justice, and is one of many Bible passages that have been used to justify slavery. 9:20-25

"I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee."
God will beless you if you bless Abraham and curse you if you curse Abraham. ** Abraham. 12:3

God sends a plague on the Pharaoh and his household because the Pharaoh believed Abram's lie. 12:17
God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan "forever". This promise is still used to justify the unending battles over the land in the Middle East. 13:14-15

Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6

The angel tells Hagar to return and submit to her abusive owner, Sarai. 16:8-9

God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan "forever". This promise is still used to justify the unending battles over the land in the Middle East. 13:14-15, 17:8

God tells Abram that all males must be circumcised, even those whom Abram had bought with money. There isn't the slightest evidence in this passage, or in any other in the Bible, that the biblical God disapproves of slavery. 17:12-13, 23, 27

An uncircumcised boy is to be abandoned by his parents and community. 17:14

Abraham begs God not to kill everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah. [Which is odd, since later (Genesis 22:2-10) Abraham doesn't even question God's request that he kill his own son.] He asks God two good questions: "Wilt thou destroy the righteous with the wicked?" and "Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" 18:23-25

"I will not destroy it for ten's sake."
I guess God couldn't find even ten good Sodomites because he decides to kill them all in Genesis 19. Too bad Abraham didn't ask God about the children. Why not save them? If Abraham could find 10 good children, toddlers, infants, or babies, would God spare the city? Apparently not. God doesn't give a damn about children. 18:32

Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Peter 2:7-8. 19:8

Lot lied about his daughters being "virgins" in 19:8. But it was a "just and righteous" lie, intended to make them more attractive to the sex-crazed mob. 19:14
本帖最後由 hellboy 於 2012/5/4 19:17 編輯
你估左貼右貼幾句經文就是反到基哩咩!
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/4 19:10


你估左貼右貼幾句經文就改變到我哩咩?用你個豬腦諗吓都知無可能啦。人地ANNTOATED SKEPTIC BIBLE幾萬經文,你點同我鬥呀?
英文睇唔明呀?
查字典囉
beebeechan 發表於 2012/5/4 19:16


你唔識睇英文咩?咁我比遲啲比埋中文版比你好無?
God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family.19:24

Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26

God gets angry with king Abimelech, though the king hasn't even touched Sarah. He says to the king, "Behold, thou art but a dead man," and threatens to kill him and all of his people. To compensate for the crime he never committed, Abimelech gives Abraham sheep, oxen, slaves, silver, and land. Finally, after Abraham "prayed unto God," God lifts his punishment to Abimelech, "for the Lord had fast closed up all the wombs of the house of Abimelech, because of Sarah." 20:3-18

God "closed all the wombs" because Abimelech believed Abe's lie. 20:18

Sarah, after giving birth to Isaac, gets angry again at Hagar (see Gen.16:5-6) and tells Abraham to 'cast out this bondwoman and her son." God commands Abraham to "hearken unto her voice." So Abraham abandons Hagar and Ishmael, casting them out into the wilderness to die. 21:10-14

After the water ran out, Hagar left Ishmael alone to die. But God heard the infant crying, so he had an angel cry to Hagar from heaven, telling her not to worry. God heard the child's cry and opened Hagar's eyes so she could see a well, filled with water. God said he'd make Ishmael a great nation, and the child became an archer. 21:14-20

God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13

Abraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only an evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it. 22:10

"Because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son."
Why did God love Abraham so much? Because he was willing to murder his son for him. (Greater evil hath no man than this, that he is willing to kill his own son for God.) 22:16

God blessed Abraham by giving him lots of slaves. 24:35
Isaac loved Esau because Esau was a hunter and Isaac loved venison. Rebekah loved Jacob, but God hated Esau (see Romans 9:13). No reason is given for why one son is loved while the other is hated. But since God chose to act this way, it must have been as an example for parents to follow. Have you decided which of your children to hate? 25:28

God blessed Isaac (like his father Abraham before him) with many slaves. 26:12-14

Jacob, with coaching from his mother, obtains Isaac's blessing by lying. God seems to have been fooled as well. 27:19

Jacob offers to work for seven years to pay for Rachel. As it turns out, he is tricked into having sex with her sister, Leah, instead, so he has to work for another seven years so in order to pay for them both. 29:18-30

As part of the deal with Jacob, Zilpah and Bilhah (Laban's slaves) are handed over to Leah and Rachel. 29:24, 29

Laban gives Rachel and Bilhah to Jacob. 29:28

Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31

"The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them." 35:5

"And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him." What did Er do to elicit God's wrath? The Bible doesn't say. Maybe he picked up some sticks on Saturday. 38:7

After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10
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