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基督徒是一群怎樣的人?

為咗各位方便, 我recap一下”康健的人用不著醫生” 嘅錯謬:
1 體檢, 因為唔睇醫生就唔知道係唔係康健
2 康健的人, 但係畀人搞大咗個肚, 都用得著醫生
3 康健的人,但係對波唔夠大, 又用得著醫生
4 bb仔出世, 點都規定要睇醫生

以上係小弟暫時諗到嘅, 歡迎各路英雄補充

麻煩說明一下以上各點係錯嘅, , 係耶穌講”康健的人用不著醫生” 先至啱, 同埋在哪裏
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
耶穌亦都好似冇話自己係暗喻緊喎?咁佢如果係暗喻, 亦都係暗喻失敗啦, 睇醫生實醫到嘅咩? 你問下

其實你講咁L長, 用咁多篇幅踩我, 但係都冇說明到耶穌嘅”有病先至睇醫生”暗喻係講得啱嘅, 麻煩繼續努力, 不過唔好咁長氣, 我未必得閒睇

所以佢並不符合”是一種利用事物的相似點” criteria., 耶穌所用嘅係明喻同暗喻之外嘅--- 錯喻
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
咁又未必嘅, 可能有人同霍金傳福音:"耶穌赦你嘅罪, 咪即係你睇醫生醫病一樣囉."

“你老母攞景定贈興?”

可能呢個先至係真正嘅原因呢?
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
回覆 47# 沙文

叻仔,唔入我設嘅網主兩難陷阱。

不過,即係你講唔出原則啦,一句你覺得誤導就誤導,咪叫唔講道理囉。

都話左幾次,
1.小生素來不恥下問
2.每事問,禮也
3.問都分設問反問

你似乎好容易假設人地問親都係因為唔識。呢個就唔高明啦,不過你以前都認過唔高明,就唔再多講。

如果係比喻, 就會話到明係比喻, 如果唔講明, 你點L知係比喻呢? ”他又設個比喻對他們說 、天國好像 ...
沙文 發表於 2024/5/31 23:10


沙文見你才疏學淺就教吓你啦,比喻分明喻暗喻借喻

比喻也稱為譬喻,是一種利用事物的相似點,把甲物比作乙物的修辭方式。可分為明喻、暗喻、借喻等類型。明喻是本體、喻體和比喻詞都出現的比喻,比喻詞是「好像」、「似的」、「……一樣」等。暗喻也稱為隱喻,不用比喻詞,或本體和喻體之間常用「是」、「就是」、「成為」等詞連接。借喻沒有比喻詞,也不出現本體,而用喻體直接代替本體。

漢語知識

唔好話一定要開場白,連喻詞都唔洗。

Mat 9:9  耶穌從那裡往前走,看見一個人名叫馬太,坐在稅關上,就對他說:「你跟從我來。」他就起來跟從了耶穌。
Mat 9:10  耶穌在屋裡坐席的時候,有好些稅吏和罪人來,與耶穌和他的門徒一同坐席。
Mat 9:11  法利賽人看見,就對耶穌的門徒說:「你們的先生為什麼和稅吏並罪人一同吃飯呢?」
Mat 9:12  耶穌聽見,就說:「康健的人用不著醫生,有病的人才用得著。
Mat 9:13  經上說:『我喜愛憐恤,不喜愛祭祀。』這句話的意思,你們且去揣摩。我來本不是召義人,乃是召罪人。」

呢個聖經段落由罪人開首,由耶穌講召罪人結尾。題目就係罪人有關。
問你食飯,耶穌就答健康疾病及醫生,從上下文一睇,咪借喻。
果啲咩"天國又好像乜乜乜"咪叫明喻。

即係又唔係咩高深知識黎,中學肯聽吓書都識啦。

霍金點解唔信神?

Using language about God, Hawking told TIME after the book’s release, is more figurative than literal.

“God is the name people give to the reason we are here,” he said. “But I think that reason is the laws of physics rather than someone with whom one can have a personal relationship. An impersonal God.”

Hawking considered himself an atheist
Hawking spoke more plainly about his thoughts on God in an interview with Spanish publication El Mundo.

“Before we understand science, it is natural to believe that God created the universe. But now science offers a more convincing explanation,” he said. “What I meant by ‘we would know the mind of God’ is, we would know everything that God would know, if there were a God, which there isn’t. I’m an atheist.”


佢就係唔覺得自己有罪吖嘛,或者,佢根本覺得罪呢個概念係嘥氣,或者唔關佢事啦,咁佢唔揾醫生又係佢自己嘅事。

"Hawking invoked the name of God in his seminal book A Brief History of Time, writing that if physicists could find a “theory of everything” — that is, a cohesive explanation for how the universe works — they would glimpse “the mind of God.”"

而正正係到霍金死時,包括霍金在內嘅極多偉大嘅頭腦站在大家嘅肩上,窮其一生探宇宙嘅奧妙,依然未攻破。
稍讀物理發展史就知,1900年開爾文都曾經以為物理學只差兩舊磚,點知一個黑體幅射問題就爆左個量子力學新殿堂出黎,連明白相對論嘅都係得十二個,好啦原子彈核子彈中子彈做左,宜家連愛茵斯坦加霍金雙槍都未搞掂GUT,standard  model出左幾十年, 久唔久就話有可能揾到有粒子唔符合model,你又知standard model可以捱到邊一日?從來都唔知邊一日有新物理發現會推翻舊有理論,幾時先glimpse到mind of God 呢?
科學方法,都唔保證物理定律不變添。
所以佢唔信耶穌,其實係耶穌自己造成嘅
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
或者可以試下同hawking講,嗱,你信耶穌,佢赦你嘅罪,就好似醫生醫你嘅病咁咯,你智商咁L高應該明個可?
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
屌唔識就查字典啦,而家我教小學嘅咩不論相同或唔同,類比的內容至少唔好講錯嘢誤導善信
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
回覆 44# 沙文

身體唔康健去睇醫生, 醫生未必醫得好

但係有罪悔改信耶穌, 耶穌就一定赦到罪

所以赦罪, 康健兩樣嘢, 根本irrelevant
沙文 發表於 2024/6/1 05:50


嗱,係你攞出黎講㗎,咁到底類比係要睇相同嘅野,定不相同嘅野?


話題要轉了嗎?
除咗體檢之外,“康健的人唔駛醫生,有病先要”咁講仲有一個超大謬誤。
廿年前我就試過,有一天,我老婆叫我陪佢睇醫生,
“妳病咩?”
“唔係,我康健嘅。”
“去體檢都要我陪?”
“唔係體檢”
“究覺咩事?”“你估下?”
我咁鈍估唔到,各位聰明嘅觀眾想必已經估到。
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
講赦罪就講赦罪咪得囉, 而家冇人話唔明, 要比喻下先至得讀完都唔知赦罪同身體健康有乜L嘢啦更, 講嗰個都係低低地, 聽嗰個就笑L死


身體唔康健去睇醫生, 醫生未必醫得好

但係有罪悔改信耶穌, 耶穌就一定到罪

所以赦罪, 康健兩樣嘢, 根本irrelevant

更何況關於睇醫生嘅部分, 根本就講得唔啱

Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
唔係喎, 如果係比喻, 就會話到明係比喻, 如果唔講明, 你點L知係比喻呢? ”他又設個比喻對他們說 、天國好像 ...
沙文 2024/5/31 23:10 提交


讀完都好似你咁唔知係講要赦罪而唔係身體健康, 睇怕都係低低地。


話題要轉了嗎?
最冇常識係你。
大腸癌咁驗嘅咩?會屙血咖嘛。
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
不過如果係卵巢癌,子宮頸癌, 手指同條脷都唔夠長
沙文 發表於 2024/6/1 01:34



    做「龜頭探測」,, 頂到有硬塊就要進一步檢查
由於我份工好他條, 現在有少少空檔, 可以詳細解答這位網友關於健康健的疑惑。
網友的常識係唔錯得曬, 有一 ...
沙文 發表於 2024/6/1 01:34

有冇check 埋大腸癌?
個屎忽味唔同咗?
由於我份工好他條, 現在有少少空檔, 可以詳細解答這位網友關於健康健的疑惑。
網友的常識係唔錯得曬, 有一些病的確係唔需要睇醫生都檢查到。
例如, 每次我揸老婆或者其他任何女人對波, 我都會跟足指引幫佢check 1 check乳癌.

當然最穩陣都係 mammogram, 但一般來說畀我摸過都唔會點走雞。

不過如果係卵巢癌,子宮頸癌, 手指同條脷都唔夠長, 咁就一定要醫生喇。

I hope this clarifies your concern. Please feel free to ask if you have further questions.
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
一定要check先知康唔康健咩
jimmychauck 發表於 2024/5/31 06:28
唔係喎, 如果係比喻, 就會話到明係比喻, 如果唔講明, 你點L知係比喻呢? ”他又設個比喻對他們說 、天國好像乜乜物物....”但係睇醫生就冇咁講, 所以唔會係比喻

就算作比喻都要作得內容啱, 唔好累死人先得㗎
尤其基督教, 信嘅人好多都低低哋, 信耶穌咁講, 康健就發生問題

唔係一定要check先至知康唔康健嘅, 有一天你突然發現條J劇痛, 尻頭腫到籃球咁大, 然後先至book appointment 都唔遲,呢啲都係基督教常識嚟
唔駛body check咩?
人到4張嘢,揾醫生一年一次體檢穩陣尐。
冇睇醫生,你又點L知自己康唔康健呢?
呢個係 ...
沙文 2024/5/31 19:44 提交


人地講比喻你就當字面,dior講啲讀經0分咪你囉。

一定要check先知康唔康健咩,一啲常識都冇,你睇怕都係做開body check cell使。


話題要轉了嗎?
屌我點L知啫, 有問題去問耶穌啦, 係佢話康健就唔好睇醫生
如果你唔知自己康唔康健就去睇醫生, 而結果驗出來係康健, 咁你咪嚴重違反咗聖訓囉?
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
你就要聽耶穌老點, 冇心絞痛就唔好無端白事嘥錢去做ecg


記住呀, 冇事你去做就好衰仔
沙文 發表於 2024/5/31 21:45


又係你話:你又點L知自己康唔康健呢?
唔做又點知有暗病, 唔通癌症四期發到出先驗咩
https://www.cfpc.ca/CFPC/media/R ... -PT-Annual-Exam.pdf

你就要聽耶穌老點, 冇心絞痛就唔好無端白事嘥錢去做ecg

1. 心電圖 $374

2. 運動心電圖 $2,981

3. 心腦血管防中風身體檢查 $1,770


記住呀, 冇事你去做就好衰仔

Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
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