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原帖由 Jom 於 2008-2-6 13:01 發表
咁可能人家鍾意收集錢吖嘛...收集咗又無話用...


,
u should recommend yourself to them to hire u as the devil's advocate ......... er .........
oops,
sorry ,
i have just mistyped it , i mean : :::::
u should recommend yourself to them to hire u as the Christian's advocate ,
原帖由 Jom 於 2008-2-5 00:41 發表
你地唔好咁啦,班友仔都係搵食既啫.有時個人收咗工就梗係會做返d野黎平衝心理,但呢d野唔一定同佢地既profession吻合果喎.

你諗吓,如困你見到個古惑仔平時打打殺殺,但收咗工又拖阿婆過馬路又捐錢咁...唔通又要指住佢 ...
我都唔想咁做嘅,但是為了公眾利益才不得已既啫。因為您見到個牧師,佢額頭又唔会鑿住「我可能会強姦您」七個字,咁,如果有三分提防之心,点都好過被佢攻其無備嘛

Priest arrested over sex claims

The former head of an independent Catholic school in west London has been arrested following allegations of sexual assault.Father David Pearce, who retired from St Benedict'sSchool in Ealing 15 years ago, was arrested at his home in Ealing Abbeyafter claims by a current pupil.
Ealing Abbey founded the school in 1902 and monks act as trustees.
Fr Pearce was interviewed by officers before being bailed to return to a west London police station in May.
Famous alumni
The police's child abuse investigation team is looking into the allegations.
A police spokesman said: "We can confirm that police received allegations on 15th January of sexual assault.
"The allegations relate to incidents between 2006 and 2007."

Fr Pearce was head of the junior school before he retired.
School authorities insisted that they acted promptly when they learned of the accusations.
He added: "As soon as the principals of the school weremade aware of the allegations, they put them in the hands of theauthorities," said the school's solicitor Tony Nelson.
"The school has behaved impeccably."
The school admits pupils aged 4 to 18 and has a mixed sixth form.
Famous alumni include the former governor of Hong Kong Chris Patten and the comedian Julian Clary.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7217762.stm


                                            
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原帖由 Jom 於 2008-2-5 16:41 發表
你地唔好咁啦,班友仔都係搵食既啫.有時個人收咗工就梗係會做返d野黎平衝心理,但呢d野唔一定同佢地既profession吻合果喎.

你諗吓,如困你見到個古惑仔平時打打殺殺,但收咗工又拖阿婆過馬路又捐錢咁...唔通又要指住佢 ...



but ,
sorry, this time could i not agree w/ thee ,

呢d野 , 一定同佢地既profession吻合果喎 , because : ::::::::::
they have just too many $$$$$$$$$-from-donations-e.t.c. in their custody , ..........
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http://exchristian.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=40&page=4#pid13400
>>>> 以前果個唔記得帶嘢食,而家呢個寫錯cheque兼入錯户口
>>>> Pastor Charged With Theft
>>>> A Scott County Pastor has been charged with stealing $900 from his church.

should i b 1 of them , i must do it , + , even ,,,,,,,,,better''''''''' ,
你地唔好咁啦,班友仔都係搵食既啫.有時個人收咗工就梗係會做返d野黎平衝心理,但呢d野唔一定同佢地既profession吻合果喎.

你諗吓,如困你見到個古惑仔平時打打殺殺,但收咗工又拖阿婆過馬路又捐錢咁...唔通又要指住佢暈精媽番一番咩.

班教牧平時又要守齋,又唔可以買吓馬仔打吓牌咁,梗係要有d野黎調劑吓架啦.咁啱呢d方法犯法咁話之嘛.
牧師發脾4出槍,好在今次冇人受傷
Youth pastor must take anger class after road rage incident

Monday, February 4, 2008

A North Naples youth pastor charged with flashing a gun at a motorist during a road rage incident last fall was ordered Monday to take an anger management class.
Collier County Judge Vince Murphy sentenced 39-year-old Christopher Scott Thompson, 80 Logan Blvd. S. in North Naples, to the class as a condition of his six-month probationary term on a misdemeanor charge, improper exhibition of a weapon.
The case was to go to trial Monday and roughly 20 members of North Naples United Methodist Church showed up in support for the church’s NextGen pastor, who also is director of its youth congregation. Instead, Thompson pleaded no contest as part of a plea deal.
“The reason behind that is we were unsure of where the victim was,” Assistant State Attorney James Miller said after sentencing. “The victim had moved. To prove the actual charge would have been difficult. I think Mr. Thompson learned a very important lesson.”
As part of the plea, the judge withheld an adjudication of guilt, meaning that if Thompson satisfies all conditions of probation, he will not have a conviction.
Thompson was arrested at about 4 p.m. Sept. 28 after another driver, Joseph Hunter, told Collier sheriff’s deputies that a man in a white Dodge van flashed a gun at him on Logan Boulevard near the intersection with Teak Wood Drive. Deputies found Thompson at his home nearby and seized a gun from his white Dodge Caravan.
Deputies reported that Thompson told them that he got upset when he was cut off in traffic and didn’t back off the other driver. He said he had to slam on his brakes to avoid a collision but denied flashing his gun at Hunter.
Deputies charged him with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon without intent to kill and displaying a firearm during a felony. He had faced up to 15 years in a state prison on the latter charge, a second-degree felony, and five years on the other, a third-degree offense.
In November, those charges were amended to a first-degree misdemeanor and sent to county court for prosecution. He faced up to a year in county jail on the reduced charge.
Thompson’s MySpace Page says he is married with two children and lists Jesus as his hero and church officials have called him an “outstanding employee” and an “effective leader.” He remains an employee there.
After the hearing, the church’s pastor, the Rev. Ted Sauter reiterated the church’s support and noted the lack of proof against his employee.
“Chris is an exceptionally effective youth pastor and the action today justifies our decision to believe Chris’ explanation and keep Chris in good standing on our staff,” Sauter said. “In contrast to Duke University with its Lacrosse team, our leadership did not rush to judgment based upon questionable allegations, but acted in a responsible and Christian manner.’’
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/feb/04/youth-pastor-must-take-anger-class/
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Pastor denied bond in student's death
Updated: 02/04/2008 04:29 PM

RALEIGH -- The pastor charged with the death of North Carolina Central University student Latrese Curtis was denied bond Monday.

On Saturday, authorities arrested Robert Lee Adams Reaves, 43, in connection with Curtis' murder. He is charged with first degree murder. His probable cause hearing is scheduled for February 25.
Reaves was living in Durham but had previously been living in South Carolina.
Last week, drivers noticed Curtis’ body along I-540 near Exit 18 and called 911. An autopsy showed the 21-year-old died after being hit a sharp object.
Reaves has a criminal past that includes a conviction on sex charges while he was the pastor of a church in South Carolina as well as charges for financial card theft and larceny of a motor vehicle.
Authorities are still investigating the type of relationship Reaves had with Curtis and if anyone else was involved in her death. Neighbors say they never saw the victim around his home.
“Through the investigation we have found out they have met each other,” Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison said. “We are still looking into that, this investigation is still ongoing, will there be another arrest, we still don't know yet. We’ve got a lot of ground to cover, and a lot of things, and a lot of people to talk to."
A memorial service for Curtis took place Monday in Carteret County. She attended NCCU and worked part-time at the Sears store at Triangle Town Center in North Raleigh. She was married in April.
http://news14.com/content/headlines/592490/pastor-denied-bond-in-student-s-death/Default.aspx
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以前果個唔記得帶嘢食,而家呢個寫錯cheque兼入錯户口
Pastor Charged With Theft
A Scott County Pastor has been charged with stealing $900 from his church.
Pastor Joe Moran, of Stamping Ground Baptist Church, was arraigned this month on theft charges. He pleaded not guilty.
Moran tells 27NEWSFIRST the allegations are nothing more than a big misunderstanding. He says he made a mistake when he deposited a check for $900.50 into his personal account.
He says the check was written out to him and was sent to his personal address.
Some of the 100-member congregation have left the Church and have asked Moran to step down. But he says he did nothing wrong and that he will not be leaving.
Moran will be back in Scott County Court on February 21 for a preliminary hearing.
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/14474637.html
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details

County employees, ministers charged

Saturday, January 26, 2008

CHICAGO | Cook County prosecutors on Friday announced a variety of felony indictments against eight people -- including three county employees and three ministers -- in a series of alleged fraud schemes against government agencies that reportedly cost more than $1.6 million.
"This is particularly shocking because much of this money was intended to help impoverished individuals looking to better themselves," Cook County State's Attorney Dick Devine said in a news release.
"As if that were not bad enough, three of the defendants were county employees in positions of trust and three others were trusted by their communities as ministers," he said.

Indicted were:
-- Charles Koen, the managing director of the nonprofit United Front Inc. and pastor of Christian Hope Church, 8849-59 S. Greenwood Ave., Chicago
-- Alex Brooks, vice president of United Front and a minister at Christian Hope Church
-- Ronnie Marshall, an United Front employee and a minister at Christian Hope Church
-- Joyce Norfleet, a United Front employee
-- Dorothy Taylor, a United Front employee

Three employees of (Cook County Board) President's Office of Employment Training, or POET, also were indicted. They are Rudolph Sanchez, Roberto Rivera and Ronald Harper.

POET and two other governmental agencies were solicited to retain United Front to provide training to displaced or disadvantaged workers. The other agencies were the mayor's office of Workforce Development, or MOWD, the Housing Authority of Cook County, or HACC.
Prosecutors said United Front contracted with the government agencies to provide training in the building trades, but little or no training took place. Various other crimes -- including official misconduct, intimidation and money laundering -- took place along the way as the schemes progressed, prosecutors said.
United Front and United Front Training School also are charged as corporate entities. However, the organizations are virtually bankrupt and fines are not likely, prosecutors said.
The indictments were returned last year and unsealed Friday.

The defendants:
-- Charles Koen, 62, of the 200 block of East 24th Street, Cairo. Bond set $500,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Joyce Norfleet, 61, of the 5600 block of North Artesian, Chicago. Bond set $75,000. Next court date is Feb. 2
-- Alex Brooks, 78, of the 1500 block of Commercial, Cairo. Bond set $25,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Dorothy Taylor, 49, of the 6600 block of North Ashland Avenue, Chicago. Bond set $65,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Roberto Rivera, 56, of the 1300 block of Wenonah, Berwyn. Bond set at $100,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Ronald Harper, 56, of the 17600 block of Balmoral, Hazel Crest. Bond set at $100,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Rudolph Sanchez, 64, of the 5200 block of Fence Lake NE Drive, Rio Rancho, N.M. He is awaiting an extradition hearing.
-- Ronnie Marshall, 42, of the 5700 block of West Birch, Milwaukee, Wis. He was not in custody Friday.
http://nwi.com/articles/2008/01/ ... 62573dc000f7192.txt
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Pastor pleads guilty to child porn charges

01/24/2008

NEW CASTLE - A former pastor of a Slippery Rock Township church pleaded guilty this week to two counts of possession of child pornography.
No sentencing date has been set for Robert D. Schmidtberger, 52, but prosecutors recommended a sentence of 12 months minus two days to 24 months minus four days with 15 years' probation.
Lawrence County Judge Thomas Piccione, who oversaw the guilty plea, ordered a psychological assessment to determine whether Schmidtberger might be a violent sexual predator.
After his release, Schmidtberger will be required to register with the state police under the provisions of Megan's Law.
State police filed the charges based on information provided by the America Online Internet service, which periodically reviews subscribers' e-mails. A review on March 12, 2005, detected three e-mails that included images that depicted child pornography.
AOL personnel matched the sender's screen name to Schmidtberger and notified the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which contacted the state police.
The address on Schmidtberger's online account, 468 Rose Point Road, was that of Rose Point Reformed Presbyterian Church. That was also listed with the office of Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo as Schmidtberger's home address.
The district attorney's office reported that, at the time charges were filed in 2005, Rose Point Reformed Presbyterian Church's Web site listed Schmidtberger as its pastor. The church's Web site now lists no pastor and says weekly sermons are given by guest pastors.
A call Thursday afternoon to the church was not returned.
Police searched Schmidtberger's residence and seized computers and other electronic devices. An examination of those devices turned up the images of child pornography on 15 CD-ROMs.
http://www.ellwoodcityledger.com ... id=563781&rfi=6
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
原帖由 沙文 於 2008-1-21 12:29 發表
我在57樓咪報道咗咯?

咦?原來是同一人?Sorry,就當是中譯版吧。
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我在57樓咪報道咗咯?
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details

黑人牧師藉驅魔強姦女教徒

2008年1月14日
加拿大多倫多市一名黑人牧師以幫徒驅魔辟邪為名,涉嫌藉機強姦兩名女子,包括強迫其中一人在墓穴旁性交,甚至令她們因姦成孕,陪審團最後裁定他只性侵犯了一名女子。法庭文件顯示,他亦令另外四個女人誕下九個孩子。

逼墓穴旁做愛

兩名指控勞倫斯性侵犯的女子均稱,向勞倫斯付了逾百加元作為驅除體內邪靈的費用,包括全身赤裸的治療性沐浴,然後由勞倫斯用油給她們按摩。其中一名廿九歲女子說,○三年的復活節至十二月,在勞倫斯位於多倫多的住所遭強姦了五至十次,她跟勞倫斯生了一個女兒,現年三歲。而一名四十五歲女子就稱,在一次沐浴儀式上,被勞倫斯強迫與他在一個新的墓穴旁發生性關係。她所生的三個孩子中,一名五歲男童已被鑑定是勞倫斯的親兒。勞倫斯否認控罪,稱他與其他女性發生關係時都是兩情相悅的。

陪審團經過三天的商討後,上周四裁定勞倫斯性侵犯廿九歲女子罪名成立,但性侵犯四十五歲女子的指控不成立,下月廿八日宣判刑期。目前仍在保釋期的勞倫斯考慮上訴。

新聞來源:《東 方 日 報》

http://www.chinatown.com.au/news/news.asp?loca=wd&newsID=41060
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Church of Christ pastor charged with indecency

Saturday, January 12, 2008

A pastor at the Greggton Church of Christ on Marshall Avenue was jailed Thursday after admitting to molesting a relative, according to a report by the Longview Police Department.
Charles Thomas Hogland, 58, of Longview told police he inappropriately touched the girl at least six separate times, according to the report. He has been charged with indecency with a child by contact, a second-degree felony, and was released from jail about 2 p.m. Friday on $25,000 bond.
Hogland was interviewed by a Longview police detective Thursday after the relative he molested made an "outcry," according to the police report. Hogland told the detective that each incident happened in the church parsonage, where he and his wife reside, according to the report. Hogland is the only pastor at Greggton Church of Christ, which has a congregation of about 50, he said.
He has been there for about 10 years.
Churches of Christ operate under a board of elders.
Hogland said he and the elders will see what action the congregation wants to take.
http://www.news-journal.com/sear ... astor_arrested.html
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
原帖由 沙文 於 2007-9-22 01:27 發表
Cleric From Darien Admits Stealing Church's Money

NEW HAVEN - A former Darien pastor pleaded guilty Wednesday to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars of church money by setting up secret bank ac ...


this case ,
probably only a tip of 'the iceberg ,
99.xx% of which 's potentially lying beneath the sea-levels , i.e. invisible ,
who knows ??
God knows
原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 16:04 發表


>>>> 美國天主教會
>>>> 再
>>>> 度
>>>> 支付近2億美元用於性侵害賠償

here's where your donation$$$$$$$$$ come finally


it may b comparable to the problem of `````````sub-prime"""""""" ,
i.e.
an other black-hole ,
i.e.
i.e
sooner or later there may b once again an other similar case as this
>>>> 再
>>>> 度
>>>> 支付近2億美元用於性侵害賠償

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 16:29 編輯 ]
原帖由 沙文 於 2007-9-9 12:48 發表
2007年09月08日 08:19

    美國加州聖地亞哥天主教會7日同意向144起神父性侵害事件受害人支付1.98億美元的賠償。據報道,這一協議是主管教區、律師和提出指稱的受害人經過兩天的談判達成的。協議為4年多來的法律糾紛 ...


>>>> 美國天主教會
>>>> 再
>>>> 度
>>>> 支付近2億美元用於性侵害賠償

here's where your donation$$$$$$$$$ come finally

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 16:30 編輯 ]
i'm also going to be 最聽上帝嘅 , too ,   , cause : :::::
i'm also going to be 生養眾多佈滿了地

  ,

any real devout Christian lady may b better to call me now !




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Pastor guilty of sexual assault
Man, 59, who charged $150 for black magic baths fathered child with young woman he had treated
  Jan 11, 2008 04:30 AM
Peter Small
Courts Bureau

A pastor has been convicted of sexually assaulting a parishioner to whom he gave healing baths and naked rubdowns to rid her of evil spirits.
At the same time, a jury of nine men and three women acquitted Rev. Frank Seeko Lawrence of separate counts of assaulting and threatening to kill the woman, now 29, by whom he fathered a child.
They also found him not guilty of sexually assaulting a second woman, now 45, who also had his baby.
It took the jury three days to come to its verdict. At least a dozen of the 59-year-old pastor's followers and friends waited in the courthouse hallway throughout.
Lawrence admitted in 2005 family court documents to having nine other children, age 8 to 22, by four other mothers, whom he supported on an income of $19,600 a month.
Prosecutor Paul Zambonini, who told the jury that in law there cannot be consensual sex between two people when one is in a position of power, trust, or authority, later praised them for their hard work.
At the time of the sex assault, Lawrence ran his Toronto Mount Zion Revival Church of the Apostles out of the basement of his home.
In dramatic testimony lasting five days, the victim said he gave her black magic baths, for which he charged $150, to rid her of evil spirits, then ordered her to stand up and drip dry while he rubbed her naked body with brown ointment.
Anthony Robbins, Lawrence's lawyer, said he was disappointed with the jury's verdict and his client is considering an appeal. He said he disagreed with the Crown's assertion that sex between the pastor and his parishioner could never be consensual.
"My concern is that the jury found that (the complainant) could not be believed beyond a reasonable doubt in respect of all but one of her allegations," he said. "It is going to be up to the judge to find which of the numerous (alleged) sexual assaults the jury convicted her on. She claimed constant sexual abuse over a nine-month period."
The victim testified her mother first brought her to the pastor when she was 17, because she had constant vomiting and splitting headaches. She said that in 2003, when she was in her mid-20s, he allowed her to stay at his home because she was desperate for a place to live. Shortly after, he forced his attentions on her, she testified.
Lawrence returns for a sentencing hearing on Feb. 28.
http://www.thestar.com/article/293100
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Definitely, they aren't innocent too. If that is what you're trying to say.
Don't know where God is but the Devil is in the details
so preachers aren't inicent
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