Jom

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prussianz

原帖由 Jom 於 2008-2-5 16:41 發表
你地唔好咁啦,班友仔都係搵食既啫.有時個人收咗工就梗係會做返d野黎平衝心理,但呢d野唔一定同佢地既profession吻合果喎.

你諗吓,如困你見到個古惑仔平時打打殺殺,但收咗工又拖阿婆過馬路又捐錢咁...唔通又要指住佢 ...

but ,
sorry, this time could i not agree w/ thee ,

呢d野 , 一定同佢地既profession吻合果喎 , because : ::::::::::
they have just too many $$$$$$$$$-from-donations-e.t.c. in their custody , ..........
@
http://exchristian.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=40&page=4#pid13400
>>>> 以前果個唔記得帶嘢食，而家呢個寫錯cheque兼入錯户口
>>>> Pastor Charged With Theft
>>>> A Scott County Pastor has been charged with stealing $900 from his church.

should i b 1 of them , i must do it , + , even ,,,,,,,,,better''''''''' ,

Jom

你地唔好咁啦,班友仔都係搵食既啫.有時個人收咗工就梗係會做返d野黎平衝心理,但呢d野唔一定同佢地既profession吻合果喎.

你諗吓,如困你見到個古惑仔平時打打殺殺,但收咗工又拖阿婆過馬路又捐錢咁...唔通又要指住佢暈精媽番一番咩.

班教牧平時又要守齋,又唔可以買吓馬仔打吓牌咁,梗係要有d野黎調劑吓架啦.咁啱呢d方法犯法咁話之嘛.

沙文

牧師發脾4出槍，好在今次冇人受傷
Youth pastor must take anger class after road rage incident
Monday, February 4, 2008

A North Naples youth pastor charged with flashing a gun at a motorist during a road rage incident last fall was ordered Monday to take an anger management class.
Collier County Judge Vince Murphy sentenced 39-year-old Christopher Scott Thompson, 80 Logan Blvd. S. in North Naples, to the class as a condition of his six-month probationary term on a misdemeanor charge, improper exhibition of a weapon.
The case was to go to trial Monday and roughly 20 members of North Naples United Methodist Church showed up in support for the church’s NextGen pastor, who also is director of its youth congregation. Instead, Thompson pleaded no contest as part of a plea deal.
“The reason behind that is we were unsure of where the victim was,” Assistant State Attorney James Miller said after sentencing. “The victim had moved. To prove the actual charge would have been difficult. I think Mr. Thompson learned a very important lesson.”
As part of the plea, the judge withheld an adjudication of guilt, meaning that if Thompson satisfies all conditions of probation, he will not have a conviction.
Thompson was arrested at about 4 p.m. Sept. 28 after another driver, Joseph Hunter, told Collier sheriff’s deputies that a man in a white Dodge van flashed a gun at him on Logan Boulevard near the intersection with Teak Wood Drive. Deputies found Thompson at his home nearby and seized a gun from his white Dodge Caravan.
Deputies reported that Thompson told them that he got upset when he was cut off in traffic and didn’t back off the other driver. He said he had to slam on his brakes to avoid a collision but denied flashing his gun at Hunter.
Deputies charged him with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon without intent to kill and displaying a firearm during a felony. He had faced up to 15 years in a state prison on the latter charge, a second-degree felony, and five years on the other, a third-degree offense.
In November, those charges were amended to a first-degree misdemeanor and sent to county court for prosecution. He faced up to a year in county jail on the reduced charge.
Thompson’s MySpace Page says he is married with two children and lists Jesus as his hero and church officials have called him an “outstanding employee” and an “effective leader.” He remains an employee there.
After the hearing, the church’s pastor, the Rev. Ted Sauter reiterated the church’s support and noted the lack of proof against his employee.
“Chris is an exceptionally effective youth pastor and the action today justifies our decision to believe Chris’ explanation and keep Chris in good standing on our staff,” Sauter said. “In contrast to Duke University with its Lacrosse team, our leadership did not rush to judgment based upon questionable allegations, but acted in a responsible and Christian manner.’’
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/feb/04/youth-pastor-must-take-anger-class/
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Pastor denied bond in student's death
Updated: 02/04/2008 04:29 PM

RALEIGH -- The pastor charged with the death of North Carolina Central University student Latrese Curtis was denied bond Monday.

On Saturday, authorities arrested Robert Lee Adams Reaves, 43, in connection with Curtis' murder. He is charged with first degree murder. His probable cause hearing is scheduled for February 25.
Reaves was living in Durham but had previously been living in South Carolina.
Last week, drivers noticed Curtis’ body along I-540 near Exit 18 and called 911. An autopsy showed the 21-year-old died after being hit a sharp object.
Reaves has a criminal past that includes a conviction on sex charges while he was the pastor of a church in South Carolina as well as charges for financial card theft and larceny of a motor vehicle.
Authorities are still investigating the type of relationship Reaves had with Curtis and if anyone else was involved in her death. Neighbors say they never saw the victim around his home.
“Through the investigation we have found out they have met each other,” Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison said. “We are still looking into that, this investigation is still ongoing, will there be another arrest, we still don't know yet. We’ve got a lot of ground to cover, and a lot of things, and a lot of people to talk to."
A memorial service for Curtis took place Monday in Carteret County. She attended NCCU and worked part-time at the Sears store at Triangle Town Center in North Raleigh. She was married in April.
http://news14.com/content/headlines/592490/pastor-denied-bond-in-student-s-death/Default.aspx

沙文

以前果個唔記得帶嘢食，而家呢個寫錯cheque兼入錯户口
Pastor Charged With Theft
A Scott County Pastor has been charged with stealing $900 from his church.
Pastor Joe Moran, of Stamping Ground Baptist Church, was arraigned this month on theft charges. He pleaded not guilty.
Moran tells 27NEWSFIRST the allegations are nothing more than a big misunderstanding. He says he made a mistake when he deposited a check for $900.50 into his personal account.
He says the check was written out to him and was sent to his personal address.
Some of the 100-member congregation have left the Church and have asked Moran to step down. But he says he did nothing wrong and that he will not be leaving.
Moran will be back in Scott County Court on February 21 for a preliminary hearing.
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/14474637.html

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Saturday, January 26, 2008

CHICAGO | Cook County prosecutors on Friday announced a variety of felony indictments against eight people -- including three county employees and three ministers -- in a series of alleged fraud schemes against government agencies that reportedly cost more than $1.6 million.
"This is particularly shocking because much of this money was intended to help impoverished individuals looking to better themselves," Cook County State's Attorney Dick Devine said in a news release.
"As if that were not bad enough, three of the defendants were county employees in positions of trust and three others were trusted by their communities as ministers," he said.

Indicted were:
-- Charles Koen, the managing director of the nonprofit United Front Inc. and pastor of Christian Hope Church, 8849-59 S. Greenwood Ave., Chicago
-- Alex Brooks, vice president of United Front and a minister at Christian Hope Church
-- Ronnie Marshall, an United Front employee and a minister at Christian Hope Church
-- Joyce Norfleet, a United Front employee
-- Dorothy Taylor, a United Front employee

Three employees of (Cook County Board) President's Office of Employment Training, or POET, also were indicted. They are Rudolph Sanchez, Roberto Rivera and Ronald Harper.

POET and two other governmental agencies were solicited to retain United Front to provide training to displaced or disadvantaged workers. The other agencies were the mayor's office of Workforce Development, or MOWD, the Housing Authority of Cook County, or HACC.
Prosecutors said United Front contracted with the government agencies to provide training in the building trades, but little or no training took place. Various other crimes -- including official misconduct, intimidation and money laundering -- took place along the way as the schemes progressed, prosecutors said.
United Front and United Front Training School also are charged as corporate entities. However, the organizations are virtually bankrupt and fines are not likely, prosecutors said.
The indictments were returned last year and unsealed Friday.

The defendants:
-- Charles Koen, 62, of the 200 block of East 24th Street, Cairo. Bond set $500,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Joyce Norfleet, 61, of the 5600 block of North Artesian, Chicago. Bond set $75,000. Next court date is Feb. 2
-- Alex Brooks, 78, of the 1500 block of Commercial, Cairo. Bond set $25,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Dorothy Taylor, 49, of the 6600 block of North Ashland Avenue, Chicago. Bond set $65,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Roberto Rivera, 56, of the 1300 block of Wenonah, Berwyn. Bond set at $100,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Ronald Harper, 56, of the 17600 block of Balmoral, Hazel Crest. Bond set at $100,000. Next court date is Feb. 2.
-- Rudolph Sanchez, 64, of the 5200 block of Fence Lake NE Drive, Rio Rancho, N.M. He is awaiting an extradition hearing.
-- Ronnie Marshall, 42, of the 5700 block of West Birch, Milwaukee, Wis. He was not in custody Friday.
http://nwi.com/articles/2008/01/ ... 62573dc000f7192.txt

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01/24/2008

NEW CASTLE - A former pastor of a Slippery Rock Township church pleaded guilty this week to two counts of possession of child pornography.
No sentencing date has been set for Robert D. Schmidtberger, 52, but prosecutors recommended a sentence of 12 months minus two days to 24 months minus four days with 15 years' probation.
Lawrence County Judge Thomas Piccione, who oversaw the guilty plea, ordered a psychological assessment to determine whether Schmidtberger might be a violent sexual predator.
After his release, Schmidtberger will be required to register with the state police under the provisions of Megan's Law.
State police filed the charges based on information provided by the America Online Internet service, which periodically reviews subscribers' e-mails. A review on March 12, 2005, detected three e-mails that included images that depicted child pornography.
AOL personnel matched the sender's screen name to Schmidtberger and notified the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which contacted the state police.
The address on Schmidtberger's online account, 468 Rose Point Road, was that of Rose Point Reformed Presbyterian Church. That was also listed with the office of Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo as Schmidtberger's home address.
The district attorney's office reported that, at the time charges were filed in 2005, Rose Point Reformed Presbyterian Church's Web site listed Schmidtberger as its pastor. The church's Web site now lists no pastor and says weekly sermons are given by guest pastors.
A call Thursday afternoon to the church was not returned.
Police searched Schmidtberger's residence and seized computers and other electronic devices. An examination of those devices turned up the images of child pornography on 15 CD-ROMs.
http://www.ellwoodcityledger.com ... id=563781&rfi=6

抽刀斷水

原帖由 沙文 於 2008-1-21 12:29 發表
我在57樓咪報道咗咯？

咦？原來是同一人？Sorry，就當是中譯版吧。

沙文

我在57樓咪報道咗咯？

抽刀斷水

2008年1月14日
加拿大多倫多市一名黑人牧師以幫徒驅魔辟邪為名，涉嫌藉機強姦兩名女子，包括強迫其中一人在墓穴旁性交，甚至令她們因姦成孕，陪審團最後裁定他只性侵犯了一名女子。法庭文件顯示，他亦令另外四個女人誕下九個孩子。

逼墓穴旁做愛

兩名指控勞倫斯性侵犯的女子均稱，向勞倫斯付了逾百加元作為驅除體內邪靈的費用，包括全身赤裸的治療性沐浴，然後由勞倫斯用油給她們按摩。其中一名廿九歲女子說，○三年的復活節至十二月，在勞倫斯位於多倫多的住所遭強姦了五至十次，她跟勞倫斯生了一個女兒，現年三歲。而一名四十五歲女子就稱，在一次沐浴儀式上，被勞倫斯強迫與他在一個新的墓穴旁發生性關係。她所生的三個孩子中，一名五歲男童已被鑑定是勞倫斯的親兒。勞倫斯否認控罪，稱他與其他女性發生關係時都是兩情相悅的。

陪審團經過三天的商討後，上周四裁定勞倫斯性侵犯廿九歲女子罪名成立，但性侵犯四十五歲女子的指控不成立，下月廿八日宣判刑期。目前仍在保釋期的勞倫斯考慮上訴。

新聞來源：《東 方 日 報》

http://www.chinatown.com.au/news/news.asp?loca=wd&newsID=41060

沙文

Saturday, January 12, 2008

A pastor at the Greggton Church of Christ on Marshall Avenue was jailed Thursday after admitting to molesting a relative, according to a report by the Longview Police Department.
Charles Thomas Hogland, 58, of Longview told police he inappropriately touched the girl at least six separate times, according to the report. He has been charged with indecency with a child by contact, a second-degree felony, and was released from jail about 2 p.m. Friday on $25,000 bond.
Hogland was interviewed by a Longview police detective Thursday after the relative he molested made an "outcry," according to the police report. Hogland told the detective that each incident happened in the church parsonage, where he and his wife reside, according to the report. Hogland is the only pastor at Greggton Church of Christ, which has a congregation of about 50, he said.
He has been there for about 10 years.
Churches of Christ operate under a board of elders.
Hogland said he and the elders will see what action the congregation wants to take.
http://www.news-journal.com/sear ... astor_arrested.html

prussianz

原帖由 沙文 於 2007-9-22 01:27 發表
Cleric From Darien Admits Stealing Church's Money

NEW HAVEN - A former Darien pastor pleaded guilty Wednesday to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars of church money by setting up secret bank ac ...

this case ,
probably only a tip of 'the iceberg ,
99.xx% of which 's potentially lying beneath the sea-levels , i.e. invisible ,
who knows ??
God knows

prussianz

原帖由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 16:04 發表


>>>> 美國天主教會
>>>> 再
>>>> 度
>>>> 支付近2億美元用於性侵害賠償

here's where your donation$$$$$$$$$ come finally

it may b comparable to the problem of `````````sub-prime"""""""" ,
i.e.
an other black-hole ,
i.e.
i.e
sooner or later there may b once again an other similar case as this
>>>> 再
>>>> 度
>>>> 支付近2億美元用於性侵害賠償

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 16:29 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 沙文 於 2007-9-9 12:48 發表
2007年09月08日 08:19

    美國加州聖地亞哥天主教會7日同意向144起神父性侵害事件受害人支付1.98億美元的賠償。據報道，這一協議是主管教區、律師和提出指稱的受害人經過兩天的談判達成的。協議為4年多來的法律糾紛 ...

>>>> 美國天主教會
>>>> 再
>>>> 度
>>>> 支付近2億美元用於性侵害賠償

here's where your donation$$$$$$$$$ come finally

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 16:30 編輯 ]

prussianz

i'm also going to be 最聽上帝嘅 , too ,   , cause : :::::
i'm also going to be 生養眾多佈滿了地

  ,

any real devout Christian lady may b better to call me now !




[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-1-13 16:01 編輯 ]

沙文

Pastor guilty of sexual assault
Man, 59, who charged $150 for black magic baths fathered child with young woman he had treated
  Jan 11, 2008 04:30 AM
Peter Small
Courts Bureau

A pastor has been convicted of sexually assaulting a parishioner to whom he gave healing baths and naked rubdowns to rid her of evil spirits.
At the same time, a jury of nine men and three women acquitted Rev. Frank Seeko Lawrence of separate counts of assaulting and threatening to kill the woman, now 29, by whom he fathered a child.
They also found him not guilty of sexually assaulting a second woman, now 45, who also had his baby.
It took the jury three days to come to its verdict. At least a dozen of the 59-year-old pastor's followers and friends waited in the courthouse hallway throughout.
Lawrence admitted in 2005 family court documents to having nine other children, age 8 to 22, by four other mothers, whom he supported on an income of $19,600 a month.
Prosecutor Paul Zambonini, who told the jury that in law there cannot be consensual sex between two people when one is in a position of power, trust, or authority, later praised them for their hard work.
At the time of the sex assault, Lawrence ran his Toronto Mount Zion Revival Church of the Apostles out of the basement of his home.
In dramatic testimony lasting five days, the victim said he gave her black magic baths, for which he charged $150, to rid her of evil spirits, then ordered her to stand up and drip dry while he rubbed her naked body with brown ointment.
Anthony Robbins, Lawrence's lawyer, said he was disappointed with the jury's verdict and his client is considering an appeal. He said he disagreed with the Crown's assertion that sex between the pastor and his parishioner could never be consensual.
"My concern is that the jury found that (the complainant) could not be believed beyond a reasonable doubt in respect of all but one of her allegations," he said. "It is going to be up to the judge to find which of the numerous (alleged) sexual assaults the jury convicted her on. She claimed constant sexual abuse over a nine-month period."
The victim testified her mother first brought her to the pastor when she was 17, because she had constant vomiting and splitting headaches. She said that in 2003, when she was in her mid-20s, he allowed her to stay at his home because she was desperate for a place to live. Shortly after, he forced his attentions on her, she testified.
Lawrence returns for a sentencing hearing on Feb. 28.
http://www.thestar.com/article/293100

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Definitely, they aren't innocent too. If that is what you're trying to say.

so preachers aren't inicent

沙文

Cold Spring pastor arrested on gun charges
COLD SPRING - A pastor at a Cold Spring church was arrested on two counts of carrying a concealed weapon on Christmas Eve.
According to the Cold Spring Police Department, Johnny R. Coleman, 1069 Parkside Drive, Alexandria, the pastor of Christ Baptist Church in Cold Spring, was arrested after police found him at 12:30 p.m. with a loaded Glock 9mm handgun and a loaded .25 caliber handgun, in a briefcase at the Mr. Spotless Car Wash in Cold Spring.
Cold Spring Police Chief Ed Burk III confirmed Coleman is a pastor at the church.
According to the police report, Coleman told an officer he was in line for a car wash when he was cut off by another person. According the report, "Mr. Coleman stated he told the victim someone could get shot over this."
The person who allegedly cut Coleman off told police he believed he saw Coleman loading the hand gun, according to the police report
Coleman was arrested and taken to the Campbell County Detention Center and released the same day on his own recognizance.
Coleman could not immediately be reached for comment.
A woman who answered the phone at Christ Baptist Church, who declined to give her name, said Coleman was out of town for the holidays.
Christ Baptist Church was started in 2004 by former members of First Baptist Church of Cold Spring after suspicions arose that church money had been used improperly by former pastor Larry Davis.
http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071227/NEWS01/712270348
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Minister of music arrested on assault charges no longer with church
ARAPAHOE COUNTY – The Heritage Christian Center says its minister of music is no longer employed by the church.
Police arrested 38-year-old James Brown at a home in Arapahoe County Thursday morning on charges of sexual assault on a child. They say the alleged assault happened at the home.
Friday evening, Garret Leonard, the Executive Pastor at Heritage Christian Center sent 9NEWS the following statement: "Effective immediately Mr. Brown has been relieved from all of his duties at Heritage Christian Center. We will assess the situation as more details become available. We will continue to pray for all parties involved in this situation."
Brown is being held on a $50,000 bond. He's set to appear in court Monday at 9:30 a.m. His case was delayed because of a medical hold.
http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=83560

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Ex-pastor sent to prison after claiming abuse victim harassed him
A retired pastor from Canada was sentenced to three years in prison today after telling a McHenry County judge he was sexually harassed by the 4-year-old Lake in the Hills girl he pleaded guilty to molesting.
Kenneth R. Cooke, 73, appeared to have reasonable chance at a probation sentence given his age, health problems and lack of criminal history heading into his sentencing hearing this afternoon.
But the Calgary man who once headed his own ministry likely blew his chance of avoiding prison when he took the witness stand and painted his pre-school age victim as a sexual aggressor.
"On a couple of occasions I felt I was sexually harassed," Cooke said. "I think there is psychological evidence that children even in their younger years can become interested in sex."
He later said he did nothing inappropriate to the girl, but pleaded guilty two months ago to avoid putting his family through a trial.
Judge Joseph Condon responded harshly, telling Cooke his statements show that he has no remorse and is a threat to young children.
"That just boggles my mind," Condon said. "It is my opinion that you have a significant problem, and that other 4-year-olds have a significant problem (around you). What I'm about to do is necessary for the protection of the public."
Cooke pleaded guilty in October to one count of aggravated criminal sexual abuse stemming from allegations he fondled the girl in the summer of 2003 while he was visiting family in Lake in the Hills. The girl was not a family member.
Although indicted in January 2004, Cooke refused extradition back to the United States, setting up a 3 1/2-year legal battle than ended when a Canadian court in June denied his final appeal. Cooke surrendered to American authorities shortly after the ruling.
The girl's mother read a statement before Cooke's sentencing saying that both her daughter and her entire family continue to suffer as a result of the former preacher's actions. The girl, she said, has gotten into trouble at school for acting out sexually and has difficult making friends.
"She has stated on many occasions she is a bad person and wishes she had never been born," the girl's mother said. "You can't imagine how hard it is to hear that from your own child.
"This crime has been an emotional and psychological drain on my entire family and I don't see any end in sight for us."
County prosecutors had asked for the maximum seven-year sentence for Cooke, calling his remarks "disgusting and despicable."
"It's sickening and shows this court the defendant is not taking any responsibility for his actions," Assistant McHenry County State's Attorney Sharyl Eisenstein said.
Cooke likely will receive day-for-day credit while imprisoned, meaning he could receive parole in 18 months or less.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=103544
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Miniature-train owner indicted on sex charges

A Keller miniature train enthusiast accused of sexually abusing young children during parties at his home was indicted this week on 12 charges, authorities said.
Clinton Don Simpson, 65, has been free on bail since Dec. 19, after a judge reduced his total bail from $1.65 million to $305,000, said Alana Minton, chief prosecutor for the Tarrant County district attorney's office crimes against children unit.
As a condition of his bail, Simpson must wear an ankle monitor and is confined to his home except for approved outings, Minton said. He is also restricted from being around children, Minton said.
The charges Simpson faces nine charges of aggravated sexual assault of a child by threat and three charges of indecency with a child by fondling, according to court records.
Aggravated sexual assault of a child is a first-degree felony punishable by up to life in prison and a $10,000 fine. Indecency with a child is a second-degree felony punishable by two to 20 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.
Minton said the grand jury returned indictments on all the counts that prosecutors put before them.
Keller police had served Simpson with 17 arrest warrants in connection with 12 accusers.
Minton said that no further court dates have been set and that a trial is "a long way off."

Case background, 10B
A Tarrant County grand jury indicted Clinton Don Simpson, 65, of Keller this week on nine charges of aggravated sexual assault of a child, a first-degree felony, and three charges of indecency with a child, a second-degree felony. More on the indictment, 1B
Investigation background
Police began investigating Simpson on Oct. 7 after a 3-year-old girl said he touched her inappropriately during a birthday party at Mr. Don's Whistle Stop, a miniature train park he operated in his back yard.
Simpson, a semiretired minister and graphic artist, had built the trains, which ran on more than a quarter-mile of track through his back yard, including over a bridge and through a tunnel. The Whistle Stop was a favorite spot for children's parties for years.
At the beginning of the investigation, Simpson gave police a statement in which he admitted touching the girl and others, according to an arrest warrant affidavit.
Simpson's attorney has said the statement was coerced and given after an "emotional breakdown." Simpson has spent time under suicide watch, the attorney said.
When word of the investigation surfaced, Keller police received more than 200 calls from concerned parents.
Specialists spent weeks interviewing more than two dozen children.
The cases that went forward were based on the word of 11 girls and one boy, all between 3 and 9 years old, police have said.
Civil litigation
In November, the parents of two sisters who accused Simpson filed a civil suit against him in Tarrant County District Court.
The family belonged to Haslet Church of Christ, where Simpson was pastor, the suit states.
http://www.star-telegram.com/crime_courts/story/381747.html