prussianz

原帖由 onlyaaaa 於 2008-3-26 21:47 發表
something about  xizang
i find
http://news.sina.com.cn/z/xizang08/index.shtml
THOU i`m very unpleasant this WEB Bcause word "sina"
but.. i`m now just have a break
i have so many things...
家教 ...

P.S about my girlfriend. we 现在还是老样子吧。。。哎。。
今天看报纸，又看了篇关于男人孤独的文章。。。
深有感触。。。

dont worry any ,

just keep on brushing up thy english competitibility for jobs paying more $$$$

me support thee ,;--^), , cheers ThANKye

onlyaaaa

something about  xizang
i find
http://news.sina.com.cn/z/xizang08/index.shtml
THOU i`m very unpleasant this WEB Bcause word "sina"
but.. i`m now just have a break
i have so many things...
家教。。毕业设计。。学车。。。
oh~~
2morrow i must get up at 6 again...so ,have to bath and go to bed...
sorry
P.S about my girlfriend. we 现在还是老样子吧。。。哎。。
今天看报纸，又看了篇关于男人孤独的文章。。。
深有感触。。。

prussianz

原帖由 dye 於 2008-3-25 10:12 發表
I said I will be busy for a while.

In fact I have been traveling around in Mainland a lot lately.

谢谢恋恋不捨不弃不离离教家  ,

when
i was here the first time the first moment ,
i have promised myself very affirmativly to leave 離教者之家
asap
as soon as possible ,

but ,
'the result .... o k
ye bet it ,
ye get it ,

i'm proud to be 'the promise breaker ,

thou => you => u => => 2me2

cheers ThANKye

prussianz

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-3-26 07:46 發表
>sorry again ,
>doest thou not feel thy proposition too controversial or arbitrary or impossible ?????????

哪個?

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-3-26 06:56 發表 [url=redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=16012&ptid=1606][/url]
>couldest thou bet on that ??

賭多少?

另,特別賭注五千元美金
「共和黨再上場的話五年內會發生核戰。」
實現的話我贏。

>>>>>>>>> 「共和黨再上場的話五年內會發生核戰。」



o k sorry , , nothing but just justified junx4funx , cheers ThANKye


[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-3-28 04:39 編輯 ]

dye

Hardly.  

XinHua is Chinese version of CNN.  The only difference is that Chinese government probably have more control over Xin Hua than US has on CNN.

Comparing the actual bbc link with image.  I do not know if they update it quickly or what.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7300312.stm

But look at the passage in context and see.

[ 本帖最後由 dye 於 2008-3-26 11:46 編輯 ]

抽刀斷水

Without prejudice... 我只引述而已。

以下連結有很多圖片：
http://big5.xinhuanet.com/gate/b ... content_7837849.htm

dye

Well?  Any independent source of what is going on in Tibet?

This is all too typical of Chinese media.  Do you really think they did that intentionally?  (The "West" is not a single bloc.  It has a diversity of opinion.  The media also represent that.)

Here is another photo from CNN


Are they really trying to protray the protester as "peaceful"?

抽刀斷水

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-3-26 05:46 發表
最有趣的是,德國一開始就影下尼泊爾警察虐待藏民的片子聲稱是中國公安所為
(連制服和膚色都不同)
而CNN最早亦借同一片報導。
這在於任何國家而言,都不算是很禮貌的開放請求。

道歉了：

德國傳媒承認錯誤報道西藏騷亂表示遺憾

德國一個電視新聞頻道承認 , 對西藏騷亂存在失實報道 , 並表示深感遺憾.
德國的N-TV頻道在上星期四報道西藏騷亂時, 播出照片和短片, 協助講述當時的情況 , 但原來資料是出自尼泊爾, 並不是西藏的實況 .
發言人解釋資料來自國際通訊社, 但電視台疏忽引致今次事件, 事後已抽起錯誤的新聞材料.

http://www.metroradio.com.hk/news/news/20080325015501.htm

另外，關於外國的報道，中國的傳媒也作出了回應：

全球華人抗議西方歪曲報道

原始圖（右）中暴徒投擲石塊的畫面，在CNN網站（左）中不見了。

寫著“急救”字樣救護車居然被描述成為“軍事存在”，帶著尼泊爾警察帽子的人士在本國攔截“藏獨”分子居然被報道為“西藏發生新的示威”！自從3月14日拉薩發生打砸搶燒事件以來，這些匪夷所思的內容就這樣黑白顛倒地出現在西方媒體上。……

http://big5.xinhuanet.com/gate/big5/news.xinhuanet.com/herald/2008-03/25/content_7852318.htm

dye

1) Scale matters.  If there is not too many fellow in a riot, riot police will work.  Containing the rioter will help.

Considering the potential rioter in HK when WTO have their meeting here.  It is about training, equipment, persuation skills and morale.

According to witness from BBC, Chinese governemnt also stop part of the rioter from reaching the scene by having undercover cops reporting and sending riot police before fellow rioter can get too far from the monastary.

2) But they are always trying to stop the riot in soccer games from starting.  Eurpean are not perfect.  Riot does occur nonetheless

3) The difference is censorshiip as a national policy, and censorship as a mob policy.  Even no one report to to the police, but if you do, it will be a murder case in US.  Where as in China, there is no case.  Richard Dawkins and el. do not get shot in the south anyway.  

4) People working from behind always has a better time catching up.  They see our mistakes in advance.   

5) For Iraq, occupation and invasion is 2 different choices.  If US invade and leave, Iraq will be in chaos.  Saddam is not an average depotist anyway.  The key here is if the citizen believe it is a wrong decision?  The tide is  turning just nowadays.  If US citizen want him down, the oppuntunity is there (Talk to your local representative if you wish a fast track).

If Chinese wants to bring Wen down because they think he did something stupid, how much of a participation do they have? (With no bloodshed)

6) Oh, Canada is a Christian country by Constitution.  (Following UK's lead, Anglican Church)  By ideal, Canada is nominally Christian.  In function, Canada is some-what secular.

7) There are Chinese MP in Canada.  Woman PM in history.  We have a Chinese governor to represent the Queen before.  It is a fair game.  Chinese is a minority, ofcourse it will be a minority in the government.  (Even with full participation, the PM of China will still be a Chinese simply because the majority is Chinese.)

---------------
FYI

Riot control - How it can be done

http://people.howstuffworks.com/riot-control.htm

[ 本帖最後由 dye 於 2008-3-26 10:20 編輯 ]

Nomad

>sorry again ,
>doest thou not feel thy proposition too controversial or arbitrary or impossible ?????????

哪個?

prussianz

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-3-26 06:56 發表
>according 'the camera shots ,
>@ this time ,
>even
>'the monks +
>'the ladies did stand out + led 'the gangsters to stand against again

始終都是那問題,那佔拉薩當中的多少人?
要是真的那麼多人那麼 ...

另,特別賭注五千元美金
「共和黨再上場的話五年內會發生核戰。」
實現的話我贏。

sorry again ,
doest thou not feel thy proposition too controversial or arbitrary or impossible ?????????

sorry again cheers ThANKye

prussianz

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-3-26 06:56 發表
>according 'the camera shots ,
>@ this time ,
>even
>'the monks +
>'the ladies did stand out + led 'the gangsters to stand against again

始終都是那問題,那佔拉薩當中的多少人?
要是真的那麼多人那麼 ...

另,特別賭注五千元美金
「共和黨再上場的話五年內會發生核戰。」
實現的話我贏

but , n'o matter whatsoever , i do b so 黑心 to want thee to lose @ here ,

prussianz

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-3-26 06:56 發表
>according 'the camera shots ,
>@ this time ,
>even
>'the monks +
>'the ladies did stand out + led 'the gangsters to stand against again

始終都是那問題,那佔拉薩當中的多少人?
要是真的那麼多人那麼 ...

>couldest thou bet on that ??

賭多少?

另,特別賭注五千元美金
「共和黨再上場的話五年內會發生核戰。」
實現的話我贏。

ae .... ae ..... 大锅，比你大到tim

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-3-26 07:28 編輯 ]

Nomad

>錢中原人是賺了
>sorry , i un-understood 'the red sentence ,

其實現下西藏(尤其拉薩市)是靠中原和岸口都市的資金和技術發展的
但是始終物流極不方便,所以要靠青鐵和解放軍運物資
要是藏獨的話,解放軍大可省回運物資的消耗
口岸都市又可以徹資省錢,不用千里昭昭去老遠搞基建

Nomad

>according 'the camera shots ,
>@ this time ,
>even
>'the monks +
>'the ladies did stand out + led 'the gangsters to stand against again

始終都是那問題,那佔拉薩當中的多少人?
要是真的那麼多人那麼嚴重的要獨立的話,恐怕早就像巴勒斯坦一樣了。

>couldest thou bet on that ??

賭多少?

另,特別賭注五千元美金
「共和黨再上場的話五年內會發生核戰。」
實現的話我贏。

prussianz

>- We have a reasonable potiential to participate in the government for everyone.  Nearly no one is left out.  

同樣錯
美國是不可能出一位華人,或,黑人,或女人總統的(今次大選也不會)
加拿大同樣不會 - 即令另外的選擇可能是希特勒或者是世界大戰。

couldest thou bet on that ??  

prussianz

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-3-26 06:11 發表
>How much of a chaos it will cause with new currency, new diplomatic relationship, and a ultra-sour feeling between the two neighbours. (Chinese is very unlikely to be tolerant about the seperation,)  ...

>How much of a chaos it will cause with new currency, new diplomatic relationship, and a ultra-sour feeling between the two neighbours. (Chinese is very unlikely to be tolerant about the seperation,) Whatever the gain they believe people can get, this price tag is expensive.

其實要是西藏新彊兩個地方跑掉的話
錢中原人是賺了
怕的只是一中國會搞成前蘇聯一樣
二是俄國和印度的軍隊(失去了喜瑪拉雅山脈的保障,任何對於中國資源虎視眈眈的政權都可以從西藏進入青海攻擊。)
到底,首先蝕底的仍然是西藏人自己。
(所以他們說藏民一般根本就不想獨立,其實倒是很有此可能)

>>>> 其實要是西藏新彊兩個地方跑掉的話
>>>> 錢中原人是賺了
sorry , i un-understood 'the red sentence , ThANKing4teaching
---------
>>>> 怕的只是一中國會搞成前蘇聯一樣 ,
completly completely agree  
---------
>>>> 二
>>>> 是俄國和印度的軍隊(失去了喜瑪拉雅山脈的保障,
>>>> 任何對於中國資源虎視眈眈的政權都可以從西藏進入青海攻擊。)
completly completely agree x 2
---------
(所以他們說藏民一般根本就不想獨立,其實倒是很有此可能)
sorry , this time not agree ,
--
according 'the camera shots ,
@ this time ,
even
'the monks +
'the ladies did stand out + led 'the gangsters to stand against again
---------
n'o matter what-ever , many a ThANKye ,

[ 本帖最後由 prussianz 於 2008-3-26 06:24 編輯 ]

prussianz

原帖由 Nomad 於 2008-3-26 05:46 發表
>unprepared for the event (intelligence failure).

此其一
其二是一個很簡單的問題,就是要是軍隊很難實行鎮壓而不傷害場內無辜的平民
(其實中國對暴動準備始終是不足的,而反過來,要是開坦克鎮壓的話,不止耐不住會 ...

最有趣的是,德國一開始就影下尼泊爾警察虐待藏民的片子聲稱是中國公安所為
(連制服和膚色都不同)
而CNN最早亦借同一片報導。
這在於任何國家而言,都不算是很禮貌的開放請求。

,;--^)), ThANKs 4 unique insight , which i have missed

Nomad

>How much of a chaos it will cause with new currency, new diplomatic relationship, and a ultra-sour feeling between the two neighbours. (Chinese is very unlikely to be tolerant about the seperation,) Whatever the gain they believe people can get, this price tag is expensive.

其實要是西藏新彊兩個地方跑掉的話
錢中原人是賺了
怕的只是一中國會搞成前蘇聯一樣
二是俄國和印度的軍隊(失去了喜瑪拉雅山脈的保障,任何對於中國資源虎視眈眈的政權都可以從西藏進入青海攻擊。)
到底,首先蝕底的仍然是西藏人自己。
(所以他們說藏民一般根本就不想獨立,其實倒是很有此可能)

>1) What is wrong with a cultural change?  The current Tibet's Budhism is an imported culture too!  If part of the culture is rottening, it should be advantagous to discard the part.  If the part of culture is so great, someone will see it, keep it, and even spread it.  Did not Budhism teaches that life is a flux?

世界任何國家都會經歷這些步驟的。
多點時間吧。
正如加州人和波士頓人會堆到唐人街飲茶一樣
要是藏文化真的有那麼好康
五十年之後我們或者會通通穿藏服也說不定。
(旗袍不就在民國都仍然流行了?)

>- Canada have freedom of press (try visit wiki in China).  There is a communist party in Canada and no one is going to prosecute them.

其實美國是試過的。
而共和黨那種教會的政客現在仍在試著回到那個時代。

>- Canada have freedom of speech (There are not many sacred cow in Canada. watch TVB in Mainland should prove the point.)

美國南部到現在都仍然是沒有的。
你當街說你是無神論者的話
你同樣會被射成蜂窩而沒有人會替你報警

>- For Canada, the point of view is comparatively neutral

同上,這是花了百年時間的成果。

>- Canada have a balance of power.  A horrible prime minister is not going to get very far.

抱歉,在美國,教會有足夠的時間當政令伊拉克合計死亡兩百萬人。
... 毫無意義地
(要是死那麼多是有錢賺回來的話,我還不會加教會兩個字上去)

>- We have a reasonable potiential to participate in the government for everyone.  Nearly no one is left out.  

同樣錯
美國是不可能出一位華人,或,黑人,或女人總統的(今次大選也不會)
加拿大同樣不會 - 即令另外的選擇可能是希特勒或者是世界大戰。

>the next day I switch on the TV.. they are having a "witness" show on how real the Noah's Ark myth is. (IE preaching on TV in Guangzhou)

所以我才說中國何止百年國難。

>You don't need to believe me, but the law in China is great.  But not many respect it.

同樣,當宗教有需要的時候
無論是美國還是加拿大,都不見得他們很尊重自己的憲法。

prussianz

原帖由 onlyaaaa 於 2008-3-25 22:18 發表
nice 2 meet u 遊客 221.125.57.x
i`m also a 遊客 used 2...
so welcome to here,and happy to talk with u(以下的文字我尽量用英文来锻炼我自己，不行的话我再用中文）
actually now the rioting is happening  ...

>>>>>>>>> (以下的文字我尽量用英文来锻炼我自己，不行的话我再用中文）

好，有前途
好有前途， , marvel , bravo