beebeechan

F66.0Sexual maturation disorder既病癥係anxiety or depression，由於suffers from uncertainty about his or her gender identity or sexual orientation，咩叫本來就有病，無得醫就不是病？
抽刀斷水 發表於 2022/9/23 12:33

Michael Jackson 生下來是黑人，　他想做白人。。。。不算是disorder
但他有實際行動來想改變膚色, 不滿意自己容貌, 整了又整.....這又算不算disorder? ｍｉｃｈａｅｌ　Ｊａｃｋｓｏｎ生前精神上没有問題....很正常?

一個人生下來是男的, 千方百計要去做女的....又如何?

抽刀斷水

就以F66.0 說一說.
一個男同, 是否一出生就知自己是鍾意男, 喜歡做0既呢?
至少會經過F66.0的階段囉....這 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/23 12:11

    F66.0Sexual maturation disorder既病癥係anxiety or depression，由於suffers from uncertainty about his or her gender identity or sexual orientation，咩叫本來就有病，無得醫就不是病？

beebeechan

有咩唔敢提，成個section咁短，quote哂出黎你慢慢研究都得。其實啲behavioural disorders都係指衍生 ...
抽刀斷水 發表於 2022/9/23 09:52

就以F66.0 說一說.
一個男同, 是否一出生就知自己是鍾意男, 喜歡做0既呢?
至少會經過F66.0的階段囉....這就是有disorder。本來就有病。
奇怪的就是當F66.0治療失敗, 無得醫時....就叫「噢...不是病」。。

抽刀斷水

同性戀不是一種 sexual orientation?
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/22 23:20

    你quote果段係講transgender，同sexual orientation（包括同性戀）無關。

我篇文都有講：2018年6月18日，世界衛生組織進一步將跨性別人士從ICD-11中剔除。

你如希望研究埋transgender，睇埋ICD-11囉。

喂，比返啲討論水準出黎好喎。

抽刀斷水

紅字嗰部份明顯係你唔敢提囉
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/23 09:46

    有咩唔敢提，成個section咁短，quote哂出黎你慢慢研究都得。其實啲behavioural disorders都係指衍生出黎既焦慮同抑鬱，或者同家庭相關，明顯係社會認同導致啦，即係基督宗教有份搞到人地咁：

F66Psychological and behavioural disorders associated with sexual development and orientation
Note:
Sexual orientation by itself is not to be regarded as a disorder.

F66.0
Sexual maturation disorder
The patient suffers from uncertainty about his or her gender identity or sexual orientation, which causes anxiety or depression. Most commonly this occurs in adolescents who are not certain whether they are homosexual, heterosexual or bisexual in orientation, or in individuals who, after a period of apparently stable sexual orientation (often within a longstanding relationship), find that their sexual orientation is changing.

F66.1
Egodystonic sexual orientation
The gender identity or sexual preference (heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or prepubertal) is not in doubt, but the individual wishes it were different because of associated psychological and behavioural disorders, and may seek treatment in order to change it.

F66.2
Sexual relationship disorder
The gender identity or sexual orientation (heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual) is responsible for difficulties in forming or maintaining a relationship with a sexual partner.

F66.8
Other psychosexual development disorders
F66.9
Psychosexual development disorder, unspecified

beebeechan

紅字明顯係你老作架啦，"behavour"


F66Psychological and behavioural disorders associated with sexual development and orientation
Note:
Sexual orientation by itself is not to be regarded as a disorder.
抽刀斷水 發表於 2022/9/23 09:37

紅字嗰部份明顯係你唔敢提囉

抽刀斷水

呢啲唔知係乜鬼文法。你作嘎？
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/22 23:12

    我估唔到宗教討論要教埋人grammar既：

Quotation marks can be used to show sarcasm. More specifically, they can be used to convey the idea of "so-called," "alleged," or "supposed." When used for this purpose, quotation marks are sometimes referred to as scare quotation marks.

https://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/quotation_(speech)_marks_meaning_alleged_so-called.htm

抽刀斷水

(2)23–58%是同性戀者，而屢屢出現的性醜聞當中，許多都是與同性戀甚至同性孌童行為有關。
呢個就原文無既, 唔知係邊個加上去囉
(你梗係話唔係你)
加鹽加醋.....
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/22 11:23

    自己數下N-1，同性及同性孌童佔百分比多少，先話我呢句合唔合理啦。

抽刀斷水

sexual orientation by itself is not a disorder, but if such sexual orientation gives rise to certain behavour….it is disorder.
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/22 23:05

    紅字明顯係你老作架啦，"behavour"

beebeechan

啦。

BTW，原來聖經都有一句「你們心靈雖然願意，肉體卻是軟弱的」，真係同「口裡說不，身體卻很誠實」有異曲同工之妙呀

...
抽刀斷水 2022/9/22 17:58 提交

so what?
你實在想表達什麼


當日厄娃口中也說不能吃那果。
就是吃了。

人就是就這樣囉

beebeechan

你圖中那段都不是講同性戀homosexual喎。



抽刀斷水 2022/9/22 17:53 提交

同性戀不是一種 sexual orientation?

beebeechan

括號用途係附加意思，並唔係作者不同意的意思，通常作者不同意一般係用引號既，唉要咁教你先得既。
...
抽刀斷水 2022/9/22 17:58 提交

呢啲唔知係乜鬼文法。你作嘎？

beebeechan

你圖中那段都不是講同性戀homosexual喎。


F66Psychological and behavioural disorders associate ...

F66Psychological and behavioural disorders associated with sexual development and orientation
Note:
Sexual orientation by itself is not to be regarded as a disorder.

抽刀斷水 2022/9/22 17:53 提交

sexual orientation by itself is not a disorder, but if such sexual orientation gives rise to certain behavour….it is disorder.

即係我心想少個靚女唔係犯法。付諸行動就唔同咁講勒。

抽刀斷水

有資料來源就唔算9翕哩...不過都7翕, 77地囉

(1)有神父估計神職人員當中佔23–58%是同性戀

你引 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/22 11:23

    括號用途係附加意思，並唔係作者不同意的意思，通常作者不同意一般係用引號既，唉要咁教你先得既。

其實呢段「口裡說不，身體卻很誠實」唔係重點，因為呢篇主要係「非基督教血淚史」，呢啲係屬於你們教會門內既事，不過咁有趣就提下啦。

BTW，原來聖經都有一句「你們心靈雖然願意，肉體卻是軟弱的」，真係同「口裡說不，身體卻很誠實」有異曲同工之妙呀。

抽刀斷水

no longer a mental disorder, but still.........a disorder
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/22 10:54

    你圖中那段都不是講同性戀homosexual喎。
https://icd.who.int/browse10/2019/en#/F66

F66Psychological and behavioural disorders associated with sexual development and orientation
Note:

Sexual orientation by itself is not to be regarded as a disorder.

leefeng

有資料來源就唔算9翕哩...不過都7翕, 77地囉

(1)有神父估計神職人員當中佔23–58%是同性戀

你引 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2022/9/22 11:23

有性慾就要扑野，呢啲 priests 不搞同性性行為，咪搞細路仔啰！
禽兽教即係禽兽教，基督教天主教是23–58%是homosexual priests，100% 是 sexually assaulting a child priests！


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beebeechan

篇文已經好長架喇，資料請參考：https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2000/11/04/challenges-and- ...
抽刀斷水 發表於 2022/9/22 09:02

   
有資料來源就唔算9翕哩...不過都7翕, 77地囉

(1)有神父估計神職人員當中佔23–58%是同性戀

你引既原文, 作者都唔多信呢個數字, 用(  ) 圍實佢。



(2)23–58%是同性戀者，而屢屢出現的性醜聞當中，許多都是與同性戀甚至同性孌童行為有關。
呢個就原文無既, 唔知係邊個加上去囉
(你梗係話唔係你)
加鹽加醋.....


(3)23–58%是homosexual priests
你就以為呢啲 priests 就係會搞同性性行為既, 你插我我含你....
有仰慕同性傾向(正如你話既adelphopoiesis) 唔等如係會「搞野」,, 有行為既…
正如99%神父都會有性慾....咁又點?
唔係有性慾就要扑野架喎 (雖然又的確會忍唔住, 出咗戒)

beebeechan

搵唔到你所講既野
https://icd.who.int/browse10

請提供資料來源。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2022/9/22 09:07

no longer a mental disorder, but still.........a disorder

抽刀斷水

非常之無邏輯的論調。 十分普遍不等如是對的。
beebeechan 2022/9/21 23:02 提交

我：事實陳述

vs

陳：主觀論斷

抽刀斷水

過份簡介就變咗係單眼睇世界。

無錯, WHO 係把同性戀在精神病類中刪除,
可是ICD-10版中就新增了一章:
Co ...
beebeechan 2022/9/21 22:51 提交

    搵唔到你所講既野
https://icd.who.int/browse10

請提供資料來源。